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Nice turntables. Attached picture is an absolute requirement.
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Johnkeizer
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My 3 turntables.
renaudrenaud
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More common than nice, but, very far from home and for many years, I decided to go for this one. So happy!
I would never know that wasn’t how that table came, that arm is very nice looking (I’d almost say sexy but sounds weird for a record player). I have a n00b question, the central part of the arm is a matte grey color and towards the pivot there is a black barrel shaped thing with a shiny cap (sitting right on top of the lead in), what is that?
Audionaut
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Very nice thread.
These were the four turntables I owned, in chronological order, and I loved them all very much:
Lenco L78
Telefunken S600
Dual 721
Micro Seiki with SME tonearm
I bought the Micro Seiki as a display model from the store where I worked for a long time. It was one of those audiophile shops that aren’t very popular here on ASR—the kind that mainly sold expensive high-end gear.
Carver, Mark Levinson, Krell, Luxman, etc.
I really enjoyed it back then.
I guess the real progression was simple—I just had more money over time.
But looking back, I also noticed I became more interested in how things actually work (in fact, I thought money would buy better Sound, but the Steps were not so wide as I thought)
Today, I only have hard drives and streamers that I actually use. In storage, I still have the Kenwood KX1100hx and the 9050s as cassette decks, but no more turntables.
It became nothing more than a display piece relatively soon after I bought the Philips CD 104, and eventually, a few years later, I sold it.
PS
My first self bought LP was Santana Abraxas
Still listening to it from time to time
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Found it, adjustable effective mass. I was thinking a weight, the grading on this photo made it click.
All that brass made me think about tungsten which seems pretty cheap for the density. Machining must be an endeavor though, Google took me here
TechDAS Air Force Zero turntable | Stereophile.com
The Air Force Zero turntable is very large for a turntable, but it is not as large as a house. At $450,000 for the base model, it does, however, cost as much as many houses and more than many others (footnote 1). This observation will set off howling among some audio enthusiasts of a sort that...
$50,000 extra just for the very top piece being tungsten. Even if I could I doubt I would, but that was eye opening as far as pricing to me.
Audionaut
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... looks very stylish and makes quite an impression.
In reality, though, with the same cartridges, there was hardly any difference in sound quality compared to the Dual 721.
But back then, as the proud owner, I wouldn’t have admitted that even to myself.
Yup, my client is fortunate - as his doesn't have the markings, which is nicer. Headshells are a little hard to come by, so that's a minus if one wants to change cartridge often. Plus, the little guy can come off and with a light cart that's even better. Hard to find Tonearm for a reasonable price. Even for an unreasonable price...
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Here’s an illustration of my Sony PS-X60. Had to ebay it recently since it was developing too many issues ... :-(
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Sony PS X60 Illustration — Postimages
EJ3
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It is a very nice looking TT.Here’s an illustration of my Sony PS-X60. Had to ebay it recently since it was developing too many issues ... :-(
Sony PS X60 Illustration — Postimages
I agree that it's a shame that it started giving more issues than pleasure.
I sorta don’t understand the appeal of using such hard metals, other than just making it expensive and unique.All that brass made me think about tungsten which seems pretty cheap for the density. Machining must be an endeavor though, Google took me here
TechDAS Air Force Zero turntable | Stereophile.com
The Air Force Zero turntable is very large for a turntable, but it is not as large as a house. At $450,000 for the base model, it does, however, cost as much as many houses and more than many others (footnote 1). This observation will set off howling among some audio enthusiasts of a sort that...www.stereophile.com
$50,000 extra just for the very top piece being tungsten. Even if I could I doubt I would, but that was eye opening as far as pricing to me.
If I want a heavy platter that also was reasonably well damped (but still metal), I would machine an aluminum shell, maybe 12” by 1 or 2” deep but perhaps 1/4” thick, and fill it with lead. It would weigh more than brass, ring far less than tungsten, and be a tiny fraction of the cost. But it might be easier to grind a granite disk.
The problem with these massive disks is the motor power and transmission required to spin them, the bearing required to support them, and the noise all that entails.
Rick “can’t even find brass in 12” unfinished disks to price” Denney
What about a solution like this though?
The World's First Levitating Turntable - MAG-LEV Audio
MAG-LEV Audio’s ML1 Turntable visually enhances the experience of listening to vinyl records by levitating the platter. By joining our love for music with careful integration of technology and high-range audio components, we’ve created a turntable of the future for the medium of the past.
maglevaudio.com
Rubber coat the platter like Denon did on my DP 3000 to handle ringing and “zero” friction.
Not sure I’d want the field produced by mag-lev that close to a cartridge, especially given that it is rotating the field to drive the platter.
But it’s delightful overkill, to be sure
Rick “cheaper than one would expect” Denney
But it’s delightful overkill, to be sure
Rick “cheaper than one would expect” Denney
They answer that on their web site, saying it's sufficiently well screened for MM cartridges, and they may one day bring out a better screened version suitable for MCs. I think your concerns are probably justified. Sadly, they don't provide any W&F or isolation figures, so those would also be a concern. They do have the decency to admit it won't sound better than a conventional turntable, but that it's a visual effect design. In that, they have succeeded, but I wonder how quickly that wears off.Not sure I’d want the field produced by mag-lev that close to a cartridge, especially given that it is rotating the field to drive the platter.
But it’s delightful overkill, to be sure
Rick “cheaper than one would expect” Denney
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My Pro-Ject Xtension 10 uses a 5.7Kg aluminium platter machined out and filled with Sorbothane to prevent ringing.
To reduce the transmission of bearing noise it utilises partial magnetic levitation to reduce the load that the bearing sees.
It has electronic speed control to allow for a slow start of the high mass platter.
Technics SL 1200 Mk2, my 40+ yr old workhorse
Looks like the cousin to the MA-707, the CF-1.
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