Nice Female Rock Band! The Warning

[Blumlein 88]

I know this is a somewhat hopeless discussion here, but people dress for many reasons, often simply to feel good themselves (in daily life or as performers). Your attention may or may not not be the object or desired outcome. Performers are likely to want to look good on stage, but that doesn't necessarily correlate with a desire to be objectified.

So why would dressing this way make them feel like they look good? If you dress in that certain way, get on stage and perform in front of large crowds and your playing rock music I don't think you are being too specific about whose attention you want. I also think you are being naive about why they do that. Plus you are implying that more is going on when all anyone said is they are nice looking or easy on the eye. Nothing wrong with that. Nothing. Nor do we have any trouble understanding it is a performance. We simply confirmed as they wished that they dressed in a way to make them feel they look good and we agree they do. What kind of sense does it make to dress in a way that makes them feel they look good and then not want anyone to notice?

I don't want to derail this as it is about their music and talent. So I'll not say more about it.

 

[amirm]

This community consists of so many horny old men, oblivious of their creepiness.

Old? The heck you are talking about? Sex is part and parcel of much of music presentation out there. You are claiming they do this only to be pleasing to older people?

If I had post this, you would have claimed that the skimpy clothing Taylor Swift wears is for old people???

The band we are talking about is far more modestly dressed than 99% of popular music.

Here is what Google is suggesting to me today as I watch fair bit of piano pieces as part my learning to play:

I suggest you take your insults elsewhere and let us enjoy what is truly good music and is posted with that intention.

 

[Axo1989]

So why would dressing this way make them feel like they look good? If you dress in that certain way, get on stage and perform in front of large crowds and your playing rock music I don't think you are being too specific about whose attention you want. I also think you are being naive about why they do that. Plus you are implying that more is going on when all anyone said is they are nice looking or easy on the eye. Nothing wrong with that. Nothing. Nor do we have any trouble understanding it is a performance. We simply confirmed as they wished that they dressed in a way to make them feel they look good and we agree they do. What kind of sense does it make to dress in a way that makes them feel they look good and then not want anyone to notice?

Not to castigate at all, but you did say "men's attention" instead of "audience's attention" so why not the latter? And "dress in that certain way" is a bit creepy as a description/admonition, intentional or (I assume) otherwise. There's a multi-generation gap at work I guess. I was delineating the contrast between "I dress for myself" and "I dress for you" along with the difference between admiring someone's style and objectifying them. But while I thought Chrispy's comment was unintentionally droll (because "we" rarely comment on male performers being "easy on the eye") and flor's response was on-point if exasperated, the OP's initial post was quite neutral. I agree belabouring the tangential argument is unlikely to help, the initial point was made for consideration and remains.

 

[popej]

2 Atmos albums on Tidal.

 

[amper42]

Not to castigate at all, but you did say "men's attention" instead of "audience's attention" so why not the latter? And "dress in that certain way" is a bit creepy as a description/admonition, intentional or (I assume) otherwise. There's a multi-generation gap at work I guess. I was delineating the contrast between "I dress for myself" and "I dress for you" along with the difference between admiring someone's style and objectifying them. But while I thought Chrispy's comment was unintentionally droll (because "we" rarely comment on male performers being "easy on the eye") and flor's response was on-point if exasperated, the OP's initial post was quite neutral. I agree belabouring the tangential argument is unlikely to help, the initial point was made for consideration and remains.

huh?
This is a bunch of hogwash! When you're in the entertainment industry your goal is to have people notice you whether you are female or male. When I watch TV with my wife it's not uncommon for her to say a male actor is "easy on the eyes". I also doubt that females don't talk about that more than guys. No need to complain about a post because someone likes how a performer looks.

Popular Music entertainment has evolved into being just as much about how well the performer engages the audience visually with their dance moves and show effects as the audio track itself. In fact, many bands are much more enjoyable to watch than listening to the music without visual stimulus. In the case of "The Warning", I find their video's to be more entertaining than simply listening to the album. There's something about the bass dips, vocal facial expressions and the hard driving drummer that engages more than the music alone. The band knows that and it's why they have so many video's on-line. The only thing I can't figure out is why almost all of their music lyrics are quite dark. Maybe that's just their style? For me, driving hard lyrics about death, pain and you can't hurt me enough is more than I can handle for an extended period. I much prefer the brighter side of life and exposure to happy thoughts!

 

[Middle Earth]

The Warning’s style of pop rock is very accessible but not my cup of tea.
They have a great back story but fall far short compared to other femme fatales of rock/pop/metal aesthetically.
But beauty is in the eye of the beholder.
I am surprised they hit @amirm ‘s radar.

 

[Timcognito]

I know this is a somewhat hopeless discussion here, but people dress for many reasons, often simply to feel good themselves (in daily life or as performers). Your attention may or may not not be the object or desired outcome. Performers are likely to want to look good on stage, but that doesn't necessarily correlate with a desire to be objectified.

Yes, youth and beauty sells. Being a professional musician isn't usually altruistic.

 

[Grotti]

Showed the linked videos to my wife. Her comment: "Great voices, lots of talent and really good looking...(!)".

 

[Jefrpol]

I prefer their early stuff, from before they were born....

 

[Audiofire]

oblivious of their creepiness

Take it easy, men naturally like beautiful women. Human nature. I didn't see any creepiness and I am not old.

 

[Timcognito]

Another good looking all Female Band out of Detroit many good songs on the latest album Dream Machine

 

[amirm]

Music is good but looks like they got the gas station attendant to produce that music video for them!

 

[Timcognito]

Music is good but looks like they got the gas station attendant to produce that music video for them!

Ha Ha there are other ones with better videos. I just liked that song. Some songs remind me of the Bangles a little.

 

[amirm]

Bangles were nice. Were they one hit wonders?

 

[Timcognito]

Bangles were nice. Were they one hit wonders?

One album anyway, Walk like an Egyptian, Hazy Shade of Winter, Manic Monday, and Eternal Flame all did pretty good. Hazy shade of winter is better than Simon and Garfunkel's original IMO.

 

[amirm]

Great song. Brings back fond memories....

 

[Middle Earth]

I will take Anna Von Hausswolf
My favorite album of 2022

 

[amirm]

I remember hearing way back when with the rock scene was dominated by males. Then came Pat Benatar which opened the floodgates to female rock stars. Some of these new singers we are discussing here remind me of her.

 

[Timcognito]

I remember hearing way back when with the rock scene was dominated by males. Then came Pat Benatar which opened the floodgates to female rock stars. Some of these new singers we are discussing here remind me of her.

Yeah I was big fan too and she had a lot big hits then faded away. Love is Battlefield was way up there.

 

[Axo1989]

huh?
This is a bunch of hogwash!

Different perspectives must be met with incomprehension or derision, why not both? But let's see where this goes ...

When you're in the entertainment industry your goal is to have people notice you whether you are female or male. When I watch TV with my wife it's not uncommon for her to say a male actor is "easy on the eyes". I also doubt that females don't talk about that more than guys. No need to complain about a post because someone likes how a performer looks.

Popular Music entertainment has evolved into being just as much about how well the performer engages the audience visually with their dance moves and show effects as the audio track itself. In fact, many bands are much more enjoyable to watch than listening to the music without visual stimulus. In the case of "The Warning", I find their video's to be more entertaining than simply listening to the album. There's something about the bass dips, vocal facial expressions and the hard driving drummer that engages more than the music alone. The band knows that and it's why they have so many video's on-line. The only thing I can't figure out is why almost all of their music lyrics are quite dark. Maybe that's just their style? For me, driving hard lyrics about death, pain and you can't hurt me enough is more than I can handle for an extended period. I much prefer the brighter side of life and exposure to happy thoughts!

A nod to audiophile tradition by invoking "wife" as hearsay evidence. Not in the kitchen though, so a progressive household then. Or not so much: by your prescription woman would not only dress to draw the male gaze, but dance as well, and avoid expressing negative emotions while cheering you with only happy songs? I think that's even more prescriptive.

Not criticising you taste, or anything consenting adults do together at home, including admire TV actors, just suggesting we avoid defining female artists by their appearance in our public pronouncements (I'm not even suggesting that only men do that). It isn't too much to ask.