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Very true Paul, but if he can afford them, quality speakers like the towers mentioned can last you 20 years or more. It's very possible he may not be in the current digs that long.
OTOH even the smallest of stand mounts will most likely take up nearly the same amount of floor space as the mentioned towers but will sacrifice many strengths the towers will offer.
A personal recommendation of the posted,
Either the Arendal1528 or the KEF R11
I believe either can offer the most accurate response over the others.
With time accuracy will tend to be appreciated over some others that may offer a little more "splash".
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Yes, that was my initial consideration, to have a pair of endgame-ish speakers from the start and own it for 20 years. I expect(hope) to move to a bigger place within the next 5 years.
KEF R11s in my country is significantly cheaper than the Arendals ~ 55% the price. After reading the forum i also see much love for the Ascend ELX Raals, Revel 228Be, BMR towers.
Getting into this is information overload, i also see people saying MOFI 888 outperforms the R11s. In a setup where i will have subwoofers and the accompanying center channels, will R11 still be the "best"?
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I think with a stereo set up in a room of that size your are fine. If you insist on floor standers, and you like KEF, I would look at the KEF L60 as an all in one package. Great speaker. Sounds fine without a sub and you could add one later when you get to a larger room. For stand mount, I would look at the LS 50 wireless as well which, with a sub, would deliver all the sound you need into the future.
The A200s mentioned above are also quite stellar.
The KEFs will provide some EQ capabilities, or you could feed them from a more powerful DSP unit.
I have the baby KEFs, the LSX II LT, and in a small room they are quite the performers, though the L60 and LS 50 toast them.
If you do not want powered speakers I would look at an Eversolo streamer and separate power amp, or an Eversolo Play (amp built in), or a WiiM Ultra with separate amp or a WiiM Amp Ultra, and would start by running that into a KEF passive speaker.
The A200s mentioned above are also quite stellar.
The KEFs will provide some EQ capabilities, or you could feed them from a more powerful DSP unit.
I have the baby KEFs, the LSX II LT, and in a small room they are quite the performers, though the L60 and LS 50 toast them.
If you do not want powered speakers I would look at an Eversolo streamer and separate power amp, or an Eversolo Play (amp built in), or a WiiM Ultra with separate amp or a WiiM Amp Ultra, and would start by running that into a KEF passive speaker.
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Welcome to ASR! Do you prefer the variety which is wrapped in lotus leaves and steamed, or steamed in a glass/metal bowl?
(For those who don't know, "lo mai kai" is a dimsum dish of glutinous rice with chicken)
For a room that size, I would go coaxials. Something like the KEF R11 Metas you are considering would be very nice + 1 subwoofer.
(For those who don't know, "lo mai kai" is a dimsum dish of glutinous rice with chicken)
For a room that size, I would go coaxials. Something like the KEF R11 Metas you are considering would be very nice + 1 subwoofer.
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I have been enjoying this in the little aluminum bowls since my childhoodWelcome to ASR! Do you prefer the variety which is wrapped in lotus leaves and steamed, or steamed in a glass/metal bowl?
(For those who don't know, "lo mai kai" is a dimsum dish of glutinous rice with chicken)
For a room that size, I would go coaxials. Something like the KEF R11 Metas you are considering would be very nice + 1 subwoofer.
.How does MOFI 888 compare?
Holmz
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Welcome to ASR! Do you prefer the variety which is wrapped in lotus leaves and steamed, or steamed in a glass/metal bowl?
(For those who don't know, "lo mai kai" is a dimsum dish of glutinous rice with chicken)
For a room that size, I would go coaxials. Something like the KEF R11 Metas you are considering would be very nice + 1 subwoofer.
Keith - I am on a gluten free diet.
Keith_W
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I have been enjoying this in the little aluminum bowls since my childhood
How does MOFI 888 compare?
See for yourself.
Mofi 888 review (Erin's Audio corner): here
KEF R11 Meta (ASR): here
In short they are both impressive speakers. The Mofi's are slightly smoother on axis but bass rolls off earlier (40Hz vs. 25Hz for the KEF's). Directivity is virtually identical but the Mofi's are a touch narrower than the KEF's. Both remain nice and linear at different volumes. Amir and Erin express distortion differently which makes direct comparison of the graphs slightly more tricky, but the distortion of the KEF's shoots up at 96dB in the bass region while the Mofi's only increase by a modest amount. In a small room like yours, you are not likely to turn the volume up that high unless you have a deaf wish so it is not likely you would notice much of a difference.
There is no gluten in glutinous rice. The term comes from the stickiness of the rice, it's high in amylopectins. It gives you a different texture.
Yes be careful of info overload and I should have included the MOFI in my recomended.
Now between them I think it does come down to cost in your country.
Both are excellent measuring coaxial speakers that you should be very pleased with for decades.
Between the MOFI and KEF, which can you get the better deal on?
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The Mofi 888 is slightly cheaper (by a few hundred dollars) than the R11 Meta
I apologize for throwing more speakers in here but have been reading the forum and some names keep showing up - Ascend Acoustics ELX with RAALS & PH BMR tower will be close to price range of the R11& MOFIs after shipping.
We have a local dealer for the Revel 228s as well but they cost ard 40% more than the previous mentioned speakers.
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thank you! - looks like KEF is a strong contender for my situationTheoretical only, but the Kef's have an on-axis treble roll-off and a shelved bass roll-off that should make them friendly in a small untreated room. From Erin's Audio Corner:
Note the nearly perfect directivity.
As someone who is running a 5.1 system (but by no mean technical expert, other than learning from this website), here are my 2 cents.
I built my system over the years, and find myself with a mix bag of different components and speakers, some of them bought before I discovered this site.
But if I have the opportunity to build from scratch:
- There is no need to differentiate stereo vs multichannel: every speaker (and every component) should be hi-fi. Whether the source (music or movie) is stereo, 3, 4 or 5.1 channels, the system will play them hi-fi.
- I am surprised AsciLab speakers are not on your shortlist. I would go with 5 identical AsciLab. All their models measure state-of-the-art. Multiple threads on this site. If you pick C8C, you can even forgo the subwoofers until you move into your bigger home. 5 C8C might produce higher quality bass than most subwoofers Only drawback is delivery time, hopefully they will sort it out soon.
- A Denon AVR with Dirac. And that's it, you have an "end-gamer" of a system.
Keep things simple.
I built my system over the years, and find myself with a mix bag of different components and speakers, some of them bought before I discovered this site.
But if I have the opportunity to build from scratch:
- There is no need to differentiate stereo vs multichannel: every speaker (and every component) should be hi-fi. Whether the source (music or movie) is stereo, 3, 4 or 5.1 channels, the system will play them hi-fi.
- I am surprised AsciLab speakers are not on your shortlist. I would go with 5 identical AsciLab. All their models measure state-of-the-art. Multiple threads on this site. If you pick C8C, you can even forgo the subwoofers until you move into your bigger home. 5 C8C might produce higher quality bass than most subwoofers
Only drawback is delivery time, hopefully they will sort it out soon.- A Denon AVR with Dirac. And that's it, you have an "end-gamer" of a system.
Keep things simple.
Hi ! The best sites to find measurements are this one and Erin's audio corner. You will find outstanding performance of Kef and Mofi, Amir was enthusiast about R11 and Erin about 888, good for Arendal but latest models are not been sent around for measurements as some years ago (?!) and price has boomed, quite some criticalities about SVS Ultra Pinnacle linearity. You can also consider Revel in such price range, always an excellent performer and the original legacy of Floyd Toole's research, or Ascend but they cook most of their measurements at home. If you want the ranking by preference score it's here https://www.spinorama.org/scores.ht...1000&page=1&shape=floorstanders&power=passive
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where are you located? i have a pair of monitor audio silvers that i'm not using but outside of boston, usa, the shipping is likely to be expensive!
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very good point! you dont really save any space with stand-mounts!
otoh they can be easier to move around. Sometimes even a WAF thing.
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Ah i see KEF Q11 Metas measure better than R11 Metas tone wise?
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