New version of Sennheiser HD 560S (!)

[pandoraking]

I did use it. Another user in this thread posted the configuration as a photo and i just copied (see below)

But the overall sound volume is so low, i can barely tell if i like it was hoping someone could help me around the EQ to find something for my not so audiophile taste but i figure that would be hard to.

 

[Robbo99999]

I did use it. Another user in this thread posted the configuration as a photo and i just copied (see below)

But the overall sound volume is so low, i can barely tell if i like it was hoping someone could help me around the EQ to find something for my not so audiophile taste but i figure that would be hard to.

Nope, that's not the same EQ. Take a closer look, I'll post it again for you, try the following:

New version of Sennheiser HD 560S (!)

The older ones were just a bit brighter sounding, a bit too bright IMO. The newer ones were less bright and needed less correction to sound good to me. That's perfect, I think if there was a subtle change to make, it'd been to make them a little bit less bright so I'd be happy. My 2024 pair...

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PK stands for Peak Filter.
You'll need a -5dB Negative Preamp.
Once you've inputted the correct EQ, then do a screenshot & post it up here, then I'll check you've inputted it all correctly.

What do you mean overall sound volume is so low? You just turn up the volume until it's the right level (loud enough) assuming your amp has enough power. But either way you weren't using the EQ that I was talking about.

 

[pandoraking]

Oh i don't have any amp. I thought that just meant the "Pre amplifying " option up there in PEACE.

So the problem is I'm not using the filters as PK. We are using different programs, but I'll figure it out when i get home and report back after. Thanks for your help.

The volumn was 100% and i could barely listen the song before, no wonder i was doing something wrong

 

[Robbo99999]

Oh i don't have any amp. I thought that just meant the "Pre amplifying " option up there in PEACE.

So the problem is I'm not using the filters as PK. We are using different programs, but I'll figure it out when i get home and report back after. Thanks for your help.

The volumn was 100% and i could barely listen the song before, no wonder i was doing something wrong

Yes, the "Pre Amplifying" option in PEACE is indeed the same thing as "Negative Preamp". You'll be wanting to use -5dB (minus) in that "Pre-Amplifying" box when you use my EQ. All the filters in my EQ I linked you are Peak Filters (PK as they appear in my screenshot). In PEACE the icon for Peak Filter is that upside down v or another way of describing it is the icon that looks like a bump in the road, lol. Most of the filters in PEACE will probably default to Peak Filters when you first use it.

 

[pandoraking]

Ok it's much better now! Not so muddy, not sure how i got the filters all wrong lol.

Im trying to work around the preamp tho to suit my taste, i need more volume on the songs. if i would to play around the base too, what filter should i tweak?

 

[Robbo99999]

Ok it's much better now! Not so muddy, not sure how i got the filters all wrong lol.

Im trying to work around the preamp tho to suit my taste, i need more volume on the songs. if i would to play around the base too, what filter should i tweak?

Oh, ok, that's good! (I've checked and you've entered the filters correctly.) What device are you listening on? You just got the headphones plugged directly into a laptop/notebook or something? You'd want to make sure you Windows volume is at 100% if it's not loud enough. Negative Preamp you should probably leave on -5dB, but if you still don't have enough volume you could just rely on the clipping detection meter in PEACE - so you'd click the "prevent clipping" box that you can see in the bottom of your screenshot and just leave have the Negative Preamp at 0dB - but there will be definitely times that it will clip at which point it will decide on it's own Negative Preamp to use automatically, but that's a way of maintaining maximum volume whilst protecting yourself from clipping.

Re bass for your own taste, just change the dB Gain of Filter #1, so the 20Hz filter. Instead though you could add another filter, Low Shelf at 105Hz, Q0.71, then have your dB plus for increasing bass or negative for decreasing bass. The Low Shelf Filter at 105Hz will make greater changes to the bass level, so if you want to do that you'd add one more filter to what you currently have, and you'd leave Filter #1 (20Hz) as it is currently without changing it. But you could try either approach, first it's easier to try changing filter #1 (20Hz), but if you find it's not having enough effect, then return 20Hz filter to what you have right now, and then try the Low Shelf 105Hz filter I mentioned.

 

[pandoraking]

Adding the new filtewr worked for me, now its perfect

 

[Robbo99999]

Adding the new filtewr worked for me, now its perfect

Nice, so you used my EQ and then added that 105Hz Low Shelf Filter to tweak the bass level. What did you set the Gain (dB) at for the 105Hz Low Shelf Filter?

 

[kokoboko]

Hello all, I am new here and I got my first pair of HD560S. I am trying to follow the settings in Peace, but can' t fill the exact numbers in the filter- there is automating rounding or something. Like I can't fill 4.1 for 20 Hz filter it make it only 4.

 

[Robbo99999]

Hello all, I am new here and I got my first pair of HD560S. I am trying to follow the settings in Peace, but can' t fill the exact numbers in the filter- there is automating rounding or something. Like I can't fill 4.1 for 20 Hz filter it make it only 4.

I think go to Settings & change the number of decimal points allowed.

 

[kokoboko]

Thanks , didn't think of that. Do i need to set pre amp to -5 or -4.1 is ok ? I use them directly with laptop, no amp

 

[Robbo99999]

Thanks , didn't think of that. Do i need to set pre amp to -5 or -4.1 is ok ? I use them directly with laptop, no amp

-4.1 should be fine, but -5 will give you a little bit of overhead for things like intersample overs. If you've got plenty of power from your device then -5 might theoretically be a bit better. It doesn't really matter though.

 

[kokoboko]

Thanks! Those headphone sound great with this EQ. I am happy that I found the forum, cause I was going for ATH M50x, because of the many clips in youtube. Now I am happy.

 

[Robbo99999]

Thanks! Those headphone sound great with this EQ. I am happy that I found the forum, cause I was going for ATH M50x, because of the many clips in youtube. Now I am happy.

You're welcome, that's good! If you want to tune the EQ further then you could do what I do and use a linear tone control on it, described at following post of mine:

New version of Sennheiser HD 560S (!)

Hey again! I used the AutoEQ import tool available in EqualizerAPO w/ the Peace UI - looks like it is quite jank. Here is attempt #2! I hope I got this right this time! Should I move your settings to the front bands (1, 2, 3), or leave oratory1990's settings as bands 1-10? Does that make a...

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It's the same EQ but then the the 3 High Shelf Filters added to create a Linear Tone Control, which are the filters in the bullet points in that linked post. If it's already perfect what you're experiencing then no need for doing anymore.

 

[solderdude]

I recently bought/measured another one (new model) and it measured a bit different from the other new ones yet again.
Looks like there is quite some production spread but ... L-R balance was good.

compared to these:

 

[Robbo99999]

I recently bought/measured another one (new model) and it measured a bit different from the other new ones yet again.
Looks like there is quite some production spread but ... L-R balance was good.

compared to these:

It does look like a different shape in the treble, but it's hard to tell overall how different it is unless you overlap them all in the same graph.

 

[kokoboko]

Hope I did that right, could you check it, please. It says high shelf filter ( Q as slope ) is that the right one, because there is another one corner frequency, Q as slope.

 

[Robbo99999]

Hope I did that right, could you check it, please. It says high shelf filter ( Q as slope ) is that the right one, because there is another one corner frequency, Q as slope.

I think that's right. I don't use Peace anymore but I remember there were only two options for High Shelf Filters, one was with a Fixed Q where the Q value was greyed out and you couldn't change it, and the other option was with a Q value you could change - is that correct in terms of what you're saying? If what I'm saying is correct, then you must be using the correct one because you don't have the Q value greyed out. Does that marry with the options you see in Peace for High Shelf Filters? I only ask because I don't have it installed to check.

EDIT: after googling this looking at Oratory advice within last year (because Peace changed a few years ago re Shelf Filters), the right one to use is "High Shelf (Q as slope). And to double check with you, that still lets you change the Q value right, it's not greyed out?

 

[audiochan]

Oh, ok, that's good! (I've checked and you've entered the filters correctly.) What device are you listening on? You just got the headphones plugged directly into a laptop/notebook or something? You'd want to make sure you Windows volume is at 100% if it's not loud enough. Negative Preamp you should probably leave on -5dB, but if you still don't have enough volume you could just rely on the clipping detection meter in PEACE - so you'd click the "prevent clipping" box that you can see in the bottom of your screenshot and just leave have the Negative Preamp at 0dB - but there will be definitely times that it will clip at which point it will decide on it's own Negative Preamp to use automatically, but that's a way of maintaining maximum volume whilst protecting yourself from clipping.

Re bass for your own taste, just change the dB Gain of Filter #1, so the 20Hz filter. Instead though you could add another filter, Low Shelf at 105Hz, Q0.71, then have your dB plus for increasing bass or negative for decreasing bass. The Low Shelf Filter at 105Hz will make greater changes to the bass level, so if you want to do that you'd add one more filter to what you currently have, and you'd leave Filter #1 (20Hz) as it is currently without changing it. But you could try either approach, first it's easier to try changing filter #1 (20Hz), but if you find it's not having enough effect, then return 20Hz filter to what you have right now, and then try the Low Shelf 105Hz filter I mentioned.

new to audio here, did i made the bass shelf correctly? and which filter should i reduce if i want to reduce treble/sharp sounds or do i need to make a treble shelf?

 

[Robbo99999]

new to audio here, did i made the bass shelf correctly? and which filter should i reduce if i want to reduce treble/sharp sounds or do i need to make a treble shelf?

The 105Hz Low Shelf bass shelf that you put in at the end looks correct, but obviously you've got that at 0dB so it's having no effect. That filter wasn't a part of my original EQ but it would be the perfect filter for you to tweak the bass levels. Add dB to the 105Hz Low Shelf to increase bass & vice versa. I'd get bass right first then you might not need to reduce treble. If you want to reduce treble I'd say reduce the dB of the 6800Hz boost filter.