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New THX Standard website has some handy amp measurements

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Thank you THX! Upon further exploring of their new THX Standard website, there are some really useful measurements for many popular amps and the amp ranking makes sense to me (based on what I've heard/owned)... And many more amps I didn't include, but here are a few compared side by side. Hopefully they keep populating the list as this is very handy.

http://www.thxstandard.com/#!/

Emotiva Gen3 measurements:
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Anthem PVA 7:
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NAD M22
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Benchmark AHB2:
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Emotiva Gen3:
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Anthem PVA 7:
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NAD M22:
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Benchmark AHB2:
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Noise:
Emotiva Gen3:
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Anthem PVA7:
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NAD M22:
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Benchmark AHB2:
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I am glad to see my small Yamaha HS8 studio monitor at #1. $700/pair.
 
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Any thoughts on the THX method to score audio gear?

Is it based on psychoacoustics science?

Is the method fair or biased?

Should one buy the gear on top of the lists?

o_O:)
 
Any thoughts on the THX method to score audio gear?

Is it based on psychoacoustics science?
I took a quick look and answer is no. They are performing traditional measurements which are devoid of that for the most part.

The business model of THX is to create test standards and then charge OEMs to take the test and pay them royalties for the logo. In their original charter of THX for cinema sound, they had a good gig. From then on, I think most of their efforts have been without much value. Hence the reason you see so few products listed in their portfolio. A THX logo on a stereo amp is not going to sell more stereo amps.
 
I took a quick look and answer is no. They are performing traditional measurements which are devoid of that for the most part.

The business model of THX is to create test standards and then charge OEMs to take the test and pay them royalties for the logo. In their original charter of THX for cinema sound, they had a good gig. From then on, I think most of their efforts have been without much value. Hence the reason you see so few products listed in their portfolio. A THX logo on a stereo amp is not going to sell more stereo amps.

Thanks, @amirm , for useful remarks.

But the question is, why did Benchmark pay for THX logo?

And what about the rolling off of the Benchmark frequency curve? It looks disastrous from a «neutralist’s» perspective, doesn’t it? I guess the curve must be intentional (afraid of sounding sharp, shrill?) In that case, we have a Benchmark house curve, wouldn’t we?
 
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I'd say they licensed a THX circuit design, not just test what they had to get a sticker.

http://www.thx.com/aaa

and from the AHB2 manual:

View attachment 12543

Thanks, that makes sense!

So @amirm’s remark «In their original charter of THX for cinema sound, they had a good gig. Fromthen on, I think most of their efforts have been without much value» may have overlooked the THX design effort, then?
 
But the question is, why did Benchmark pay for THX logo?
It is a backscratching move for licensing their THX amplifier technology. I am confident they would not have bothered otherwise.
 
Still, I really like the idea of objectively scoring gear according to a set of measurements that are weighted, transparently and according to psychoacoustics research.
 
Still, I really like the idea of objectively scoring gear according to a set of measurements that are weighted, transparently and according to psychoacoustics research.

I like the idea, too. Unfortunately, THX is a pay to play operation. So, it is far from an answer to our prayers. Maybe Amir should devise one, AMX, but how does he or anyone derive adequate revenues from it to keep it in existence while not compromising its objectivity?

THX became meaningless well over a decade ago. They may be desperately searching for rejuvenated relevance, but who cares? The THX logo is useless to me.
 
Amp scoring seems as objective as I've seen, so hopefully they measure more amps. I'm not sure if the scoring and measurements are pay to get listed at http://www.thxstandard.com or not -likely as it could be great advertising for a less known brand. It seems safe to assume it is cheaper than THX certification (which was useless to me as an end user).

Keep in mind that THX Certification is totally different from getting listed on the THX Standards site:
"THX Certified status involves additional testing and tuning, which is a collaborative process between THX and the product manufacturer. Products that achieve high scores on THX Standard may be good candidates for the THX certification process."

Also, I would assume Benchmark pays a license on a per unit basis as they are using THX's amp design (versus THX Certification which I thought was an upfront lump sum).

THX spent many years developing their amp design. A lot of background is discussed in the video below (which is actually how I found out about the Benchmark AHB2). I wish something like this would have been around 4 years ago, I would have skipped several brands I tried entirely.

I definitely agree THX is doing this to promote their THX AAA amp design, although they did measure a few TVs and are marketing their THX Standards site like this:
"Using industry standards and a proprietary testing methodology, THX engineers evaluate factors that influence the audio and visual fidelity of consumer electronics. THX then publishes data-driven scores on THX Standard to help consumers make an informed purchase decision- unbiased from an editorial perspective."

Their amp design is definitely revolutionary though. I now own a lot of Benchmark gear, but I purchased it solely based on specs and the ~40dB lower THD at 1 watt (versus what I had before) is 100% noticeable for me. I wish the Benchmark gear was cheaper because every time my friends hear it they love it, but none of them will spend $3k on an amp.

 
Panasonic's top 4K UHD Blu-ray players (900 and 9000) are THX certified.
...Picture & Sound Quality.
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Bonus:
https://www.forbes.com/sites/johnar...nd-well-its-a-bit-controversial/#4d1d597d62c2
https://www.flatpanelshd.com/news.php?subaction=showfull&id=1493462409
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Extra:
http://www.thx.com/panasonic-black/
https://www.panasonic.com/uk/consumer/televisions-learn/televisions/OLED.html

Here in Canada, right where I live, I can go to one of my local audio/video stores and purchase a Panasonic 4K OLED TV, THX certified, a Hollywood verified seal of picture authenticity. The people can do that too in Ireland and in UK.
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