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new subwoofer help

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Ok so i have already setup dali opticon 2 mk2 and my avr is denon x4800h. My room size is 11x11. Which sub would you suggest i want deep bass not loud bass. Must be good for person with tinnitus as well. And i can only put the sub only on right corner of wall where tv unit is. Preferred brands svs dali
 
Check out @sweetchaos' spreadsheet on subwoofers:

Create a new temporary filter view and sort by ~20Hz to see which subs are capable of playing deep bass.

Then filter by price, size, etc according to your needs.

Btw, I don't know what you mean by "good for person with tinnitus".

Subwoofers are all the same in that regard. Something like a tinnitus-friendly sub does not exist.
 
I recently bought a Rythmik F12, which I have found to provide deep bass and to integrate very nicely. I used Dirac to calibrate, and the measured response in my listening area was down to about 14 Hz. This sub does not have any digital DSP and consequently has zero latency.
 
+1 to SVS, maybe SB-2000 Pro or SB-3000.
 
Ok so i have already setup dali opticon 2 mk2 and my avr is denon x4800h. My room size is 11x11. Which sub would you suggest i want deep bass not loud bass. Must be good for person with tinnitus as well. And i can only put the sub only on right corner of wall where tv unit is. Preferred brands svs dali
It is almost a universal truth that Subwoofers made by brands who specialize in audio Speakers will not be very good.

SVS started with Subs; they happen to do Speakers, now. But the Subs are generally well regarded.

Perhaps the only exceptions to what I wrote above may be Martin Logan (Dynamo, iirc) and Paradigm (Defiance). Some of the newer Klipsch Subs seem to be measuring well compared to those of the past. On the other hand, most of these that are worthwhile are also fairly expensive.

FWIW, I have never heard a single person say that Dali makes a decent Sub.

Happy hunting.

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OH, is your room closed off or open to rest of home? This can make a big difference in how the Sub interacts with your space. In a closed room with your square footage, a sealed sub will work well regardless of ceiling height (unless you are in a grain silo!), however in an open room/floor plan, that Sealed Sub will not perform as well as a Ported Sub can.
 
It is almost a universal truth that Subwoofers made by brands who specialize in audio Speakers will not be very good.

SVS started with Subs; they happen to do Speakers, now. But the Subs are generally well regarded.

Perhaps the only exceptions to what I wrote above may be Martin Logan (Dynamo, iirc) and Paradigm (Defiance). Some of the newer Klipsch Subs seem to be measuring well compared to those of the past. On the other hand, most of these that are worthwhile are also fairly expensive.

FWIW, I have never heard a single person say that Dali makes a decent Sub.

Happy hunting.

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OH, is your room closed off or open to rest of home? This can make a big difference in how the Sub interacts with your space. In a closed room with your square footage, a sealed sub will work well regardless of ceiling height (unless you are in a grain silo!), however in an open room/floor plan, that Sealed Sub will not perform as well as a Ported Sub can.
Its a normal bedroom oled tv is on tv unit . I have limited space as well. Price difference between svs pb2000pro and sb 3000 is only 9000 INR
 
Its a preference thing.
 
So go with sealed not ported?
Since size is important, yes. The sealed ones are much smaller than their equal in ported and only give up a tiny bit on the bottom.
I've run a pair of SVS SB2000 in a fairly large open space for a couple years now and am very pleased.
 
So go with sealed not ported?
Someone with greater technical expertise may correct me, but my understanding is that the ported subs are capable of higher output levels vs. sealed, and that is the main difference. The sealed sub that I bought (Rythmik F12) has a bass extension to 14 Hz or better, which I believe is more than sufficient, but the ported versions have a higher output capacity, appropriate for those who listen at very high levels or have a very large listening room.
 
So go with sealed not ported?
There are lots of compromises in speaker design and it's always "dangerous" to generalize, so you should check the specs/measurements and don't worry too much about how they do it.

But to go-ahead and generalize, I saved a link to this post.

As you can see, the ported speaker goes lower before cutting-off. If you tune the port with a 1 or 2dB bump before the cutoff you can make it go a bit lower.

But as you go lower, at some point the curves cross and the sealed box has more output.

With EQ/DSP you can boost the bass in the sealed design for a lower cut-off than the ported box but it takes more amplifier power (and more heat into the woofer) so overall you tend to get less sound output.

EQ/DSP doesn't do as much for ported boxes because the cutoff is steeper, and and the port allows the woofer to "flop around" below the tuning frequency and possibly distort without much actual sound output at the lowest frequencies.

Pro subwoofers used live and in dance clubs are usually large, ported, and tuned to go-down to around 40Hz. (40Hz is about the lowest note on a standard bass guitar.) That's a compromise that allows high efficiency and high output to fill a large venue with bass you can feel in your body.

Home subs are often sealed in smaller boxes with DSP. They are often tuned go down to (or near) 20Hz and they can have enough output to fill a living room with deep-strong bass.

...I have a pair of DIY subs. They are 15-inch drivers in large ported cabinets. I don't remember the exact tuning but they are supposed to go down to around 30Hz. Overkill for my home setup but that's the fun of it!!!
 
So go with sealed not ported?
I prefer the sound of a sealed sub for music. It seems to be more textured and tighter and for most music 30hz is deep bass. The ported can go lower but maybe better suited for movies and explosions for deep rumble. Talk to SVS about this subject. Just a phone call away.

BTW... an 11 by 11 size room an SB 1000 will be more than enough.
 
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Someone with greater technical expertise may correct me, but my understanding is that the ported subs are capable of higher output levels vs. sealed, and that is the main difference. The sealed sub that I bought (Rythmik F12) has a bass extension to 14 Hz or better, which I believe is more than sufficient, but the ported versions have a higher output capacity, appropriate for those who listen at very high levels or have a very large listening room.
i have tinnitus and room is only 11x11. i will not run at higher levels never. what do u suggest now
 
I prefer the sound of a sealed sub for music. It seems to be more textured and tighter and for most music 30hz is deep bass. The ported can go lower but maybe better suited for movies and explosions for deep rumble. Talk to SVS about this subject. Just a phone call away.

BTW... an 11 by 11 size room an SB 1000 will be more than enough.
i have tinnitus and will run at lower elvels only and i want sub to be louder at lower volumes. So 550watt rms vs 350 watt will it matter it lower volumes?
 
i have tinnitus and will run at lower elvels only and i want sub to be louder at lower volumes. So 550watt rms vs 350 watt will it matter it lower volumes?
No. If you said you wanted to play louder in a bigger room then you'd want to go with more power. There would be no advantage to going with a larger sub in that size room. Waste of money. Be aware, that stereos and subs always sound better when you 'crank them up a bit'. After all, bass is about moving air.
 
BTW, how to crossover your sub-woofer(s) to your woofers would be also important, as I wrote recently here.
 
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