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NEW streamer AIYIMA HYFIOO DM100

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Hi amigo

I wanted to share a short thread to announce the new streamer by Aiyima @709€
The device itself seems quite complete, although I have some doubts about the fairness of the price...

See attached picture.

Link :

Spec :

Product type Streamer / Digital Transport
OS Android 14
Bluetooth chip Qualcomm QCC3083
Memory configuration DDR4: 8GB
EMMC: 64GB
Storage slot M.2 SSD (supports up to 4TB)
Input 1x USB-C I/O
1x USB-A 3.0 OTG I/O
1x RJ45 I/O
WiFi 6
Bluetooth 5.4
Output 2x USB-A 3.0
1x USB-C I/O
1x HDMI
1x Optical Toslink
1x Coaxial SPDIF
1x RJ45 I/O

Bluetooth
Display 5.5" Touchscreen
WiFi Dual-Band WiFi 6 (2.4G/5G, 1000Mbps)
Supported Bluetooth codecs Reception: SBC/AAC/APTX/APTX HD/APTX AD/LDAC (up to 96kHz)
Transmission: SBC/APTX/APTX HD/APTX AD/LC3 (24bit 48kHz)
Supported control operating systems Android / iOS / Windows
Available OS languages Chinese, English, German, French, Russian, Japanese, Korean, etc.
Supported audio formats DSD, APE, DXD, WAV, FLAC, AIFF, ALAC, MP3, MP2, MQA, CUE TRACK
Supported streaming protocols DLNA, AirPlay, NAS, Cloud Drive
Supported streaming and radio services Apple Music, TIDAL, Spotify, Qobuz, Amazon Music, Presto Music, TuneIn Radio, and more...
General
Power supply 240V AC Mains
Dimensions 230 x 150 x 80mm
Weight 1534kg
Packaging 1x AIYIMA HYFIOO DM100
3x BT/WiFi Antennas
1x Remote Control
1x AC Power Cable
 

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I don't see anything on that website about Roon support, any idea if it will work as a Roon endpoint?
 
Hi amigo

I wanted to share a short thread to announce the new streamer by Aiyima @709€
The device itself seems quite complete, although I have some doubts about the fairness of the price...

See attached picture.

Link :

Spec :

Product type Streamer / Digital Transport
OS Android 14
Bluetooth chip Qualcomm QCC3083
Memory configuration DDR4: 8GB
EMMC: 64GB
Storage slot M.2 SSD (supports up to 4TB)
Input 1x USB-C I/O
1x USB-A 3.0 OTG I/O
1x RJ45 I/O
WiFi 6
Bluetooth 5.4
Output 2x USB-A 3.0
1x USB-C I/O
1x HDMI
1x Optical Toslink
1x Coaxial SPDIF
1x RJ45 I/O

Bluetooth
Display 5.5" Touchscreen
WiFi Dual-Band WiFi 6 (2.4G/5G, 1000Mbps)
Supported Bluetooth codecs Reception: SBC/AAC/APTX/APTX HD/APTX AD/LDAC (up to 96kHz)
Transmission: SBC/APTX/APTX HD/APTX AD/LC3 (24bit 48kHz)
Supported control operating systems Android / iOS / Windows
Available OS languages Chinese, English, German, French, Russian, Japanese, Korean, etc.
Supported audio formats DSD, APE, DXD, WAV, FLAC, AIFF, ALAC, MP3, MP2, MQA, CUE TRACK
Supported streaming protocols DLNA, AirPlay, NAS, Cloud Drive
Supported streaming and radio services Apple Music, TIDAL, Spotify, Qobuz, Amazon Music, Presto Music, TuneIn Radio, and more...
General
Power supply 240V AC Mains
Dimensions 230 x 150 x 80mm
Weight 1534kg
Packaging 1x AIYIMA HYFIOO DM100
3x BT/WiFi Antennas
1x Remote Control
1x AC Power Cable
 
The details say "HDMI Output" - does this mean there is no ARC/eARC input, or is the port configurable?
If no TV ARC, it's a deal killer for me.
 
The details say "HDMI Output" - does this mean there is no ARC/eARC input, or is the port configurable?
If no TV ARC, it's a deal killer for me.
It is HDMI out like any other computer which supports audio/video out, no ARC.
 
It is HDMI out like any other computer which supports audio/video out, no ARC.
You miss the point - all other streamers with HDMI ports can take the ARC output from TV in order to play whatever is showing on the TV, as audio to your stereo system.

In the case of this streamer, unless that HDMI port can take ARC output from a TV, a lot of people will not be happy. I suspect the spec shown on the website may be wrong or incomplete.

Sure, a few streamers also have HDMI out in order to echo the front panel onto a TV screen, but really, the important function is to be able to pay TV audio without fussing with toslink or whatever from the TV. Being able to use CEC over HDMI is good too, for obvious reasons.

Also, for your statement above, consider that after 35 years of making them for for a living, I might know what a "computer" is!
 
You miss the point - all other streamers with HDMI ports can take the ARC output from TV in order to play whatever is showing on the TV, as audio to your stereo system.
HDMI ARC routes audio from a TV to Receiver, essentially changing HDMI output mode to Audio Input mode on the receiver.
What am I missing here? Would surely like to understand more.

In the case of this streamer, unless that HDMI port can take ARC output from a TV, a lot of people will not be happy.
I have DM100 and I can confirm it does not support ARC. You can see some measurements HERE if you like.

Also, for your statement above, consider that after 35 years of making them for for a living, I might know what a "computer" is!
I wasn't doubting your wisdom, was just giving an example/analogy.
 
"HDMI ARC routes audio from a TV to Receiver, essentially changing HDMI output mode to Audio Input mode on the receiver.
What am I missing here? Would surely like to understand more."

-- As everyone knows....

The issue is that on the DM100 website, ARC or eARC is not mentioned. What is mentioned is an HDMI port as an output - I see nothing on the webpage about how a user connects the ARC/eARC output from their TVs to the DM100 in order for it to pass audio to the speakers.

It may be that (as I said before) that the port works as input and output on this streamer, but it's not clear. It may be a translation thing. Compare the DM100 web info with the Wiim Ultra info (albeit it has DAC in it too) - see below

If you have this unit yourself, and and you say it plays audio from your TV, and has CEC controls for on/off and volume control from the TV remote, then I'm happy; case closed - but whoever put the data on the webpage, may want to be clear about this, in case some buyers are put off, wrongly thinking it won't integrate their TV's audio, when nearly all well-featured streamers can.

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They have simply mentioned what the HDMI port is for, rather than what the port is not. They have not mention anything wrong there, the HDMI port is an Output port and it works like an output port giving out Audio as well as Video.

I totally agree that they could mentioned "no HDMI ARC support" or something similar to avoid confusion, but they chose not to.

It may be that (as I said before) that the port works as input and output on this streamer, but it's not clear. It may be a translation thing. Compare the DM100 web info with the Wiim Ultra info (albeit it has DAC in it too) - see below

If you have this unit yourself, and and you say it plays audio from your TV, and has CEC controls for on/off and volume control from the TV remote, then I'm happy; case closed - but whoever put the data on the webpage, may want to be clear about this, in case some buyers are put off, wrongly thinking it won't integrate their TV's audio, when nearly all well-featured streamers can.

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So to close the case as you say - No, TV audio does not work on HDMI port. And when connected DM100 HDMI to eARC/ARC HDMI port on TV, my TV does say that eARC/ARC isn't supported on connected device.
 
Nice device and, you know, ability to place it horizontal or vertical tickles me but why on earth should I get it instead of a DMP-A6?
 
The HDMI output mirrors the screen to an external monitor or TV.

This is not insignificant. It holds the distinction of being the only streamer on the market with a native Apple Music app capable of 24/192 hi-res AND able to output to an external display.

Can anyone verify whether the included remote can fully navigate the AM app?
 
That's great if you want to look at 55-100" of tags and cover-art.
As per my original point, not having ARC/eARC input (and CEC) for TV sound is a show stopper for me.
 
That’s moot here. The unit neither has a DAC or amplifier.
Yes, it is described as a transport in the link in the first post. €709 seems expensive to me for something that will not/cannot have measurements concerning its audio quality - it just squirts bits out. If the user interface and supporting apps are great, that would help justify it.
As for "moot", my guess is that a popular feature for streamers (with or without DACs and/or amps), is ARC input for TV audio, in preference to a TV display (if as you say, that's what it does) of the data that is already be on the unit's front panel display and also their phone/tablet app.

I appreciate people have different needs, but many I think, will buy a Wiim, or similar, for half the price - I'll leave it at that!
 
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