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New Revel Performa4 / Arcam Radia speaker line-up -- with Anechoic EQ

Haint said:
Looks like they got a discount on the veneer stickers from the old Pioneer Andrew Jones line, but didn't pass that discount onto consumers considering they're like 10x+ the price. Ugly, expensive, 2-way MTM center, and apparently only selling stand mounts in pairs negating any practical possibility of doing an LCR makes this a terrible product stack.
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Identical L/C/R is a great approach, and I recommend just that, unless it puts your TV mounted up so high that you develop neck strain. lol. Seriously though, if they sell the speakers individually, then they should sell the stand mounts that way too.
 
Any bricks-and-mortar dealer will be able to sell you a single standpoint. What you won't get is a shipping box, because those are designed for pairs. Not having individual shipping boxes is a cost-cutting measure on Revel's part. They believe that will save them more money than they lose on missed single-speaker sales.
 
MarkS said:
Any bricks-and-mortar dealer will be able to sell you a single standpoint. What you won't get is a shipping box, because those are designed for pairs. Not having individual shipping boxes is a cost-cutting measure on Revel's part. They believe that will save them more money than they lose on missed single-speaker sales.
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Yeah, just run down to the corner and get one, right? If going to a bricks-and-mortar dealer is what it will take to get one, the real answer is buy a set and eat the extra one. I ended up doing that with JBL JS speaker stands. It’s not the end of the world, but not ideal.
 
So if a two-way standmount is an accpetable center, why is a two-way center not an acceptable center?

I'm strictly a stereo guy, so all this HT stuff just confuses me ...
 
Haint said:
Big box loud speakers in general "don't sell" compared to soundbars or TV speakers, so is your argument that they should just stop making them?
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Plainly they're comparing them to sales of their other speakers, such as the 2-way centers. Comparing them against products they don't make is a total red herring.

I'm not making any argument, by the way, I was repeating what was relayed in the opening post of this thread:
There is only 1 center-channel available, and it is a 2-way. The AVSForum dealer was told by Revel that the C208 and even the C426Be never sold well.
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Not surprising that even in the market of people buying speakers for a home theater setup, large and expensive 3-way centers are not popular.
 
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MarkS said:
So if a two-way standmount is an accpetable center, why is a two-way center not an acceptable center?

I'm strictly a stereo guy, so all this HT stuff just confuses me ...
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Lol u must be kidding and not really reading the thread. We are talking about matching center to LR. If all are two-way than they will somehow match? But match a big 3-way to small 2-way center and that is as bad as it can get for HT. Hope clear enough.
 
jhaider said:
A 2-way MT or coax is fine. A toppled MTM is an abomination before man and God.
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If they really wanted and MTM form factor for space and sales purposes, then a 2.5 way would have at least been better.
 
It’s sad to see Revel move to 2 way centers in their more affordable line. This is part of why I like KEF in the real world. A coaxial driver allows for a 3 way center with reasonable size.
Oddball said:
They don't sell as people buying big towers for LR are content to ignore inferior performance of 2-way and/or smallish centers and end up with asymmetrical LCR soundstage. It is funny that in HT it is well established that center is the most important and busy channel but most people, and manufacturers, completely ignore that right off the bat.

So harping, at least on my side, continues...

Luckily, Performa BE line has it all and when 50% off represents great value.
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amirm said:
Those specs are meaningless.
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Assuming these upcoming loudspeakers measure as performant, can I expect them to be sold by Madrona Digital and/or Tested Audio ?
 
Revel never offered a "middle ground" center speaker.
They went from the modest C205 which was a small 2-way with 5.25" woofers to the "monster-sized" C208 and the C426Be which were 12" and 14" tall respectively and over 29" wide. They had to be stand-alone speakers or required a customized AV cabinet to fit them.
I think it would have been reasonable for them to build a 3-way center with 6.5" woofers that was around 8" tall for more versatility, but evidently their marketing department didn't agree...
If in the future if I decided to replace my mains with Revels, I would opt for the KEF R6 meta center speaker as a compromise
 
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tineared said:
Revel never offered a "middle ground" center speaker.
They went from the modest C205 which was a small 2-way with 5.25" woofers to the "monster-sized" C208 and the C426Be which were 12" and 14" tall respectively and over 29" wide. They had to be stand-alone speakers or required a customized AV cabinet to fit them.
I think it would have been reasonable for them to build a 3-way center with 6.5" woofers that was around 8" tall for more versatility, but evidently their marketing department didn't agree...
If in the future if I decided to replace my mains with Revels, I would opt for the KEF R6 meta center speaker as a compromise
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I agree, c205 vs c208 differences were big. Had they offered a smaller 3-way centre I would have gone that route over my c208. I had to get a new very low cabinet to make it work, otherwise I’d have neck cramps from the height of the tv.
 
NHT 3.3’s are superb speakers, though the topic was an appropriate center for the new Revels (given that they’re only offering a sad kludge)..

But in truth R6m actually has more cone area in the midrange and midbass, and likely better performing individual midbass drivers. So in a bass managed or ART system with decent subs I would expect an improvement, not drop off, in that aspect. But it would be hard to give up working NHT 3.3’s for much of anything IMO.
 
Buckchester said:
I agree, c205 vs c208 differences were big. Had they offered a smaller 3-way centre I would have gone that route over my c208. I had to get a new very low cabinet to make it work, otherwise I’d have neck cramps from the height of the tv.
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The key to higher TV positioning, which in turn might give you more room for the center is reclining. Also more comfortable?
 
tineared said:
I'm currently running NHT 3.3s powered by a 350W (8 Ohms) Parasound amp. I don't believe the R6's would give me quite the same impact
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do you have a 3rd NHT 3.3 for your center? Or a matching NHT center channel?
 
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