See: https://www.stereophile.com/content/arvus-h2-4d-multichannel-dolby-atmos-digital-processor (especially JA's bench results).
I suspect 24/192 but that determination demands the arrival of the product.
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New Product: Arvus H2-4D Atmos Renderer, Simultaneous 16 channel AES/Balanced Analog/Dante Output
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If Hyperion DPR-16 will do it without downsampling than it will be my Favorite Buy on Arrival later this Year.
Read that posted Link, Arvus will also Downsample all to 48kHz, so canceled it from my Wishlist!
MiniDSP Tide 16 internaly only work's with 48kHz, canceled from my Wishlist too
Read that posted Link, Arvus will also Downsample all to 48kHz, so canceled it from my Wishlist!
MiniDSP Tide 16 internaly only work's with 48kHz, canceled from my Wishlist too
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If I understand correctly, you want a processor with digital outputs that will process and output all material at the native sample rate. Same as me.
John Atkinson did say that the H24D drops all high resolution audio down to near CD quality, but that was only referring to the analogue outputs.
The digital AES outputs are reproduced at native sample rate and bit depth.
Most processors down-sample to 48kHz, but maintain 24 bits where appropriate.
There are a few honorable exceptions, but they're mostly expensive:
- Trinnov AL 32 and AL CI
- JBL Synthesis SDR-75 and 80
- Lyngdorf MP-60 with AES output option
- Arvus H2-4D
If you only want 7.1 channels output, and your source can do the decoding to LPCM (which they usually can) the field opens up:
AudioPraise VanityPRO
https://audiopraise.com/projects/internal/vanitypro/
Yulen's Black Box / SoundProAudio HDMI to 5AES converter
https://mp.weixin.qq.com/s/0-AfCuR73n9pDbQcyToiVA
Meridian HD621
Meridian HD722
https://www.meridian-audio.info/public/hd621-userguide-a5[1292].pdf
https://www.meridian-audio.com/luxury-home-audio/surround-sound/uhd722/
I am on that route here:
https://www.diyaudio.com/community/...or-full-surround-digital-aktive-setup.440807/
Till now my HDMI to I2S to 4x I2S to ASE works up to 192kHz (LPCM) Test it with DTS True HD Master, may be i didn't need an Suroundprocessor anymore
I life in a smal Apartment 15m² 3 Rooms so no way to get 16 aktiv Speaker installed
7.1 is already hard work.Next days the RME HDSpe AES Card arived for the CamillaDSP Crossover Processing up to 192kHz 16Chanels Out (8xAES Digital Out up tu 24 with 3 Cards)
Audiopraise has some Problems Building up the Devices
"The VanityPRO is scheduled to return in mid-August 2026 and will soon be available again for ordering. We appreciate your patience and look forward to supplying this popular model again shortly."
https://www.jvbdigital.com/vanitypro.html
No Problem i can wait
need to build up my CamillaDSP Device first.
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Been testing my AltitudeCI-10 (10 channel) for several days now, and I'm really impressed with it! Trinnov really knocked it out of the park.
This is the first processor that can really compete with my normal signal chain:
JRiver Media Center (WASAPI, HDMI out) -> RME HDSPe AES32 (ASIO AES out) -> Xilica XD4080 DSP processors -> Benchmark AHB2 amplifiers -> Speakers
Which has now been extended to:
JRiver Media Center (WASAPI, HDMI out) -> Trinnov AltitudeCI-10 (HDMI in, decodes or passes PCM, 10 channel AES out) -> RME HDSPe AES32 (AES in, clocked to incoming signal, ASIO to AES outputs) -> Xilica XD4080 DSP processors -> Benchmark AHB2 amplifiers -> Speakers
I can also switch between the two signal chains via an AHK script I wrote (small 5 second delay), and the Trinnov does an outstanding job! Using the "Strong" default target curve, and of course Trinnov's room optimization.
Everything about it is pro-like, and the customization of the routing down to the decoder level is impressive. You can even do neat stuff like assign half of an AES output to use only one of the two channels on the AES jack, plus it supports Dante. It would absolutely go great in a studio environment.
This is the first processor that can really compete with my normal signal chain:
JRiver Media Center (WASAPI, HDMI out) -> RME HDSPe AES32 (ASIO AES out) -> Xilica XD4080 DSP processors -> Benchmark AHB2 amplifiers -> Speakers
Which has now been extended to:
JRiver Media Center (WASAPI, HDMI out) -> Trinnov AltitudeCI-10 (HDMI in, decodes or passes PCM, 10 channel AES out) -> RME HDSPe AES32 (AES in, clocked to incoming signal, ASIO to AES outputs) -> Xilica XD4080 DSP processors -> Benchmark AHB2 amplifiers -> Speakers
I can also switch between the two signal chains via an AHK script I wrote (small 5 second delay), and the Trinnov does an outstanding job! Using the "Strong" default target curve, and of course Trinnov's room optimization.
Everything about it is pro-like, and the customization of the routing down to the decoder level is impressive. You can even do neat stuff like assign half of an AES output to use only one of the two channels on the AES jack, plus it supports Dante. It would absolutely go great in a studio environment.
How much cost such an Trinov CL with 7.1 in and 16 Out on AES 10k?
I have build up my HDSPe Card setup right now and it works already with Stereo in and 2x 2 Way Out so i am on the same Way like you
Damm Found that:
- Altitude CI 16: 13.792 €
That means 16 Output Chanels right?
SO out of my Reach need to wait for Hyperion 16-DPR if it gives 96kHz Out on AES
I have build up my HDSPe Card setup right now and it works already with Stereo in and 2x 2 Way Out so i am on the same Way like you
Damm Found that:
- Altitude CI 16: 13.792 €
That means 16 Output Chanels right?
SO out of my Reach need to wait for Hyperion 16-DPR if it gives 96kHz Out on AES
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I'm in the US, so don't know EU prices. All I can say is I only bought one channel pair upgrade (base is 8 channels) plus the 3d mic, and it wasn't cheap. It is the most flexible processor I've ever seen though, and I'm glad I bought it. 
WIll it play 96kHz or more on AES Outs or limited to 48kHz like most Processors do ???I'm in the US, so don't know EU prices. All I can say is I only bought one channel pair upgrade (base is 8 channels) plus the 3d mic, and it wasn't cheap. It is the most flexible processor I've ever seen though, and I'm glad I bought it.
I need to Move my Houshold to an new Apartment buying new Kitchen and so on so may be i could afford such an Device at the End of the Year.
On the other Hand i don't neet all the Network and Analogue Outs only AES Out i need so the Hyperion 16-DPR would do it if it plays 96kHz on AES Out!
But the Connectors are not standart (Ethernet Connectors for AES
) that sucks to.So not sure about
For 7.1 in and 7.1 AES Out my Favorite is stil Vanity Pro Extractor with Master Clock Out (Aviable around August again) with Powersupply around 2200€ But only LPCM possiblle!
I am also don't feed Video thrue the Device only Sound, my both Blueray Player has 2 Outs, one for video and one for Audio only so the Video goes directly to an LG TV
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The Trinnov AL CI costs $16,000, and each additional pair of channels costs $1250.
All Trinnov AVPs process at native rate, up to 96kHz / 192kHz, depending on channel count.
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Yes, they are standard,But the Connectors are not standart (Ethernet Connectors for AES
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Sure but, in addition to streamlining cable runs, it saves a huge amount of panel real estate.
Ok thats not an Problem than 29€ also not that Expensive Adapter:
https://www.thomann.de/de/the_sssnake_cat_snake_3mc.htm
or may be that too, not sure if for analog or also AES suited (also for DMX usable on information):
https://www.thomann.de/de/the_sssnake_cat_snake_3fb.htm
Thtas an Problem if they say internal Processing 192kHz thats not automaticly means also on AES Out aviable, i cant find information specified for AES Out on Hyperion 16-DPR nore on that TrinnnovThe Trinnov AL CI costs $16,000, and each additional pair of channels costs $1250.
All Trinnov AVPs process at native rate, up to 96kHz / 192kHz, depending on channel count.
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But anyway 16000$ for me is far off what i want to pay for an HDMI to AES Extractor
Yes. I use both of those as well as other related devices from https://studiohub.com/
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I don't understand that.
That information is not available yet.
The Trinnov is far from being just an audio extractor. It's a AV processor and Dolby / Immersive decoder and digital room correction processor and multi channel DA converter. It sits at the top of the market.nore on that Trinnnov
If you just want an audio extractor, get an AudioPraise or Meridian.
As others have said an AVP is far more than just a HDMI to AES extractor.Thtas an Problem if they say internal Processing 192kHz thats not automaticly means also on AES Out aviable, i cant find information specified for AES Out on Hyperion 16-DPR nore on that Trinnnov
The way to do this will be a device that can output to Dante then a Dante to AES converter.
A possible chain is a Bluestream SW42DA feeding a Glensound Dark1616D.
The Bluestream claims 96k Dante out but you’d have to contact them to ensure it was passing through 96k internally.
No i wand an Digital only Surroundprocessor without any Analogue Outs like the Hyperion 16-DPR and 4k is something i could pay for it!
For now my Favorite Extractor is VanityPro with external Powersuply 2,2k. But thats onlly LPCM capabel path thrue.
The Hyperion would Give me also Dolby Atmos Rendering, and probably any day Dirac, also HDMI Switching between diferent Inputs.
But for that i need to know will it send Audiostreams with 96kHz to the AES Outs!?
I don't want to go backwards to an Processor like Minidsp Tide 16 or H2-4D that sampled all down to 48 kHz on Digital Outs, thats an no go for me!!!
My RME HDSPe AES Card Setup with CamillaDSP is working now and sounds already great at 96kHz Processing, AES in and AES Out (16x16) to 2 cheep SMSL-SU2 Dacs
Now i will try the Card on Linux as next aproach.
@ Welwynnik: I mean if the Documention didn't say the Out frequency specialy on AES you never know what the capabel to give Out there!!
On h2-4D they say 192kHz Processing and nothing special on AES Out on an Review i read this device gives only 48 kHz out on AES Out and thats sux!
So as long i can't read in an Description what an Processor wil give us on AES Out i don't Buy it
For now my Favorite Extractor is VanityPro with external Powersuply 2,2k. But thats onlly LPCM capabel path thrue.
The Hyperion would Give me also Dolby Atmos Rendering, and probably any day Dirac, also HDMI Switching between diferent Inputs.
But for that i need to know will it send Audiostreams with 96kHz to the AES Outs!?
I don't want to go backwards to an Processor like Minidsp Tide 16 or H2-4D that sampled all down to 48 kHz on Digital Outs, thats an no go for me!!!
My RME HDSPe AES Card Setup with CamillaDSP is working now and sounds already great at 96kHz Processing, AES in and AES Out (16x16) to 2 cheep SMSL-SU2 Dacs
Now i will try the Card on Linux as next aproach.
@ Welwynnik: I mean if the Documention didn't say the Out frequency specialy on AES you never know what the capabel to give Out there!!
On h2-4D they say 192kHz Processing and nothing special on AES Out on an Review i read this device gives only 48 kHz out on AES Out and thats sux!
So as long i can't read in an Description what an Processor wil give us on AES Out i don't Buy it
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I'm trying to help you here. It's a subject close to my heart, and I've been researching it for two years.
Nobody knows whether the AudioControl DPR-16 will output 96kHz. I do hope it does, but we will have to wait until it is released later this year.
We know from the Stereophile review that the Arvus H2-4D does output 96kHz over AES/EBU:
We also know for a fact that all Trinnov processors can output at least 96kHz over AES/EBU.
From memory, certain models of Lyngdorf, JBL and Datasat can also do this.
Nobody knows whether the AudioControl DPR-16 will output 96kHz. I do hope it does, but we will have to wait until it is released later this year.
We know from the Stereophile review that the Arvus H2-4D does output 96kHz over AES/EBU:
We also know for a fact that all Trinnov processors can output at least 96kHz over AES/EBU.
From memory, certain models of Lyngdorf, JBL and Datasat can also do this.
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No Dante for me, thx!
I need AES Outs!
Thy didn't decimate his Channelcound on higher Frequencys
AES will give you 192 kHz 2 Chanel on one Out, no Decimation needed
And i have only 20m², so for what i need Ethernet Kabel there
One Ethernet for Internet and thats it, Ech Box has 0ne AES input so the AES Cabel hs the same Diameter like an Ethernetcabel, makes for me no Sense to use DANTE!I move there next Month i hope and that Movie / Audio Room get Acusticaly Prepared on all Walls also under the room Ceiling i will place Acustic Pannels, Ceiling is 2,8m High
The Walls get this special Panels:
https://www.momento-akustik.de/products/akustikpaneel-holzig-eiche-natur
But not directly on the Wall but with an Gap and an Frame under it let say 4 cm deep or so, i will hang them like Pictures on the Wall (not gluing or Screwing it) and put more Rock Well Material in this Frame also the AES Kabel thrue it to Suuround Speaker hiden behind it. The Pannel have thn a gap off 20cm from Bottom and to the Ceiling and to the Sidewalls Like an big Picture and there i will place LED Stripes for indirect Lighting
The Panels will have light Gray or White Material between that Wood not that Black one, is to Dark for an full Room isolation. Also some Basstraps in the Corner, not sure which one for now there so many diferent on the Market
My Room Planing still to work on, Subs and TV not placed yet, TV will be above the Center alll 2 Way are Freestander:
Surround Speaker: for Front Speaker i want to build 2 New ones with Waveguide on that AM25 and 2 W18 Scanspeaks:
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