New Phono ADC/Pre from MiniDSP

[EJ3]

I'd say it's non-existent on turntables, I've only seen it on tonearms. I heard it really should be called a JIS connector, as it's not actually the same as the DIN connector you can find on, for instance, old Lencos...

It's certainly non-existent any where on my turntables, including the tonearms. Which was my point.

 

[EJ3]

It's certainly non-existent any where on my turntables, including the tonearms. Which was my point.

Cool, I now know something about old Lenco's. It would be interesting to see one one day!

 

[lini]

(...) as it's not actually the same as the DIN connector you can find on, for instance, old Lencos...

Yup, that pretty common tonearm connector is neither DIN, nor miniDIN - but I'm not sure, whether it's JIS, either.

And standard DIN turntable output would disappoint friends of balanced/symmetrical wiring anyway, as it uses common grounding (both signal minuses/masses plus headshell, tonearm & chassis ground connected to the middle pin).

Greetings from Munich!

Manfred / lini

 

[nothingman]

@amirm — I know you’re almost always working with a backlog and I’m appreciative of any reviews at all, but any idea when you’ll get a chance to bench test the miniDSP Adept phono preamp? They mentioned sending one to you in their forums quite a while ago. Have been very eager to see if this is a breakthrough product. Thanks!

 

[morillon]

So well done and technically accomplished?..
.but not revolutionary, that's for sure....this kind of product/approach riaa dsp/adc already exist ;-)

(The little PocketADC seems well made, but of course there is no complexity of phono processing to manage on the hardware side... just one particularity , a trigger at -68dB, I don't know if the same trigger on the Adept?)

If testing the little pocket is quick and easy (just a 2v line input, and num output), the follower will be more delicate and long riaa... moreover in phono, the recent experience of the little fosi has shown the limits of the method which was practiced until now and encourages to carry out measurements on fictitious loads adapted to be relevant...

 

[pogo]

Here is a customer review of the miniDSP:

Detailed and transparent, airy. I missed some analog "grip" that I am used to and returned it. I have to say that I tested only for about 15 minutes. RIAA and AD with a different source. I like my old Digital Audio Denmark converter better.
Source: soundimports.eu

A Waxwing Phono DSP could have compensated for this deficit.

 

[morillon]

". I have to say that I tested only for about 15 minutes"


funny...

 

[morillon]

Here is a customer review of the miniDSP:

Detailed and transparent, airy. I missed some analog "grip" that I am used to and returned it. I have to say that I tested only for about 15 minutes. RIAA and AD with a different source. I like my old Digital Audio Denmark converter better.
Source: soundimports.eu

A Waxwing Phono DSP could have compensated for this deficit.

the result would probably have been the same with wax.... ;-)

but the subjective comparison between wax and the adept in fair conditions...good load, capacitance, gain, would certainly be interesting.. ;-)

 

[nothingman]

@morillon and @pogo — I have zero idea what point either of you are trying to make.

 

[morillon]

@morillon and @pogo — I have zero idea what point either of you are trying to make.

we chat...we share a little on this device...that's all... ;-)

You, you wait impatiently with the test results to know whether to buy it or not... is that it? The classic possibility remains to buy it to form your own opinion... even if it means reselling it if it doesn't suit you
;-)

(maybe give it more than 15 minutes to convince or not ;-) )

The real question is whether the functions and approaches will be useful to you... and whether what you already have is not enough (even if it means sending it to a CAN etc ;-)

 

[teched58]

we chat...we share a little on this device...that's all... ;-)

You, you wait impatiently with the test results to know whether to buy it or not... is that it? The classic possibility remains to buy it to form your own opinion... even if it means reselling it if it doesn't suit you
;-)

(maybe give it more than 15 minutes to convince or not ;-) )

The real question is whether the functions and approaches will be useful to you... and whether what you already have is not enough (even if it means sending it to a CAN etc ;-)

Au royaume de l'audiophile, l'oreilles d'or sont roi.

 

[morillon]

Au royaume de l'audiophile, l'oreilles d'or sont roi.

it remains at the level of our individuality...the purpose...the music and the pleasure we get from it...via "our ears"... (and that essentially "culturel") ;-)

 

[pogo]

the result would probably have been the same with wax

No. He could have adapted the sound of the Waxwing to suit his taste.
With Waxwing, the return rate should be close to zero.

 

[morillon]

No. He could have adapted the sound of the Waxwing to suit his taste.
With Waxwing, the return rate should be close to zero.

Who knows....it might have only been 10 minutes with the waxwing ;-)



(ps the two machines differ on certain functions... it is probably important to be clear about your real needs... on the other hand... in my country the waxwing is announced at 1080 euro .. the adept 399.... ;-) )

come back to the small pocketadc of this thread ;-)

 

[pogo]

Wow, where does the Waxwing cost twice as much as in Germany?

 

[pogo]

OK, I have found it for France. If you go via amazon.com, it is displayed cheaper (around 570€):

 

[morillon]

amazon.fr

I don't have a stock option at minidsp so I'll leave it at that... this thread is just about the little ADC... anyway the two minidsp ADCs are... just ADCs... not ADC/DAC like waxwing etc ;-)
to better understand their approaches, originally designed as a complement to other minidsp machines... which doesn't preclude other uses (my case of the little pocket with can , streamer etc)

 

[pogo]

See above.

 

[morillon]

See above.

You have to see with tax and shipping and reel disponibility (?) ;-)

 

[morillon]

Some people are just waiting for measured feedback here on the adept...


(we already have some rather instructive mesureaments ( ap) on the pocketadc, provided after request by minidsp....)
end for me about adept..


and to be frank concerning the little pocketadc( 80 euro with taxe/port in france) of this thread...
if it is not to warn of the trigger, the measurements/price are rather enlightening and there will be little to say (toslink- 48 or 96k and go)
(https://www.minidsp.com/products/usb-audio-interface/pocketadc)