New Neumann stuff announcing Friday 9/12

[kharan]

If that wasn't clear, the updated subwoofers appear to have less bass output capabilities than their original versions. If that repeats for the KH310, it's going to be very disappointing.

 

[nbot]

Very interesting news. I guess 310 II is a pretty obvious update to the original but the 350 is really more interesting of the two. Does Neumann release spinoramas or do we have to wait for the actual independent tests?

 

[Curvature]

I'm questioning things.

KH870 II

Bass capability: Maximum sound pressure in the half-space at 3% THD in 1 m (averaged between 50 Hz and 100 Hz)	114.9 dB

KH870

Bass capability: Maximum sound pressure in the half-space at 3% THD in 1 m (averaged between 50 Hz and 100 Hz)	116.7 dB SPL

KH810 II

Bass capability: Maximum sound pressure in the half-space at 3% THD in 1 m (averaged between 50 Hz and 100 Hz)	109 dB

KH810

Bass capability: Maximum sound pressure in the half-space at 3% THD in 1 m (averaged between 50 Hz and 100 Hz)	110.7 dB SPL

That doesn't look very promising if that's the path they are taking.

We can compare the max SPL plots they will publish later. Single numbers are not useful.

 

[574stereo]

If that wasn't clear, the updated subwoofers appear to have less bass output capabilities than their original versions. If that repeats for the KH310, it's going to be very disappointing.

Do you have a link to a similar set of specs for the previous line? I can't find one anywhere.

This is different to just stating a single SPL for 'maximum output'. Most subs can generate a lot of noise at 80 Hz (usually limited by heat) but 30 Hz is a totally different matter...

 

[574stereo]

Looks like they've made the KH750 a much better shape, that's really good news. The previous KH750 doesn't really work in a lot of smaller rooms due to it's dimensions.

 

[Karmacoma]

Looks like they've made the KH750 a much better shape, that's really good news. The previous KH750 doesn't really work in a lot of smaller rooms due to it's dimensions.

Sry where do you see that? Can you please give a link or sthg?

 

[kharan]

Do you have a link to a similar set of specs for the previous line? I can't find one anywhere.

Let me quote myself.

I'm questioning things.

KH870 II

Bass capability: Maximum sound pressure in the half-space at 3% THD in 1 m (averaged between 50 Hz and 100 Hz)	114.9 dB

KH870

Bass capability: Maximum sound pressure in the half-space at 3% THD in 1 m (averaged between 50 Hz and 100 Hz)	116.7 dB SPL

KH810 II

Bass capability: Maximum sound pressure in the half-space at 3% THD in 1 m (averaged between 50 Hz and 100 Hz)	109 dB

KH810

Bass capability: Maximum sound pressure in the half-space at 3% THD in 1 m (averaged between 50 Hz and 100 Hz)	110.7 dB SPL

That doesn't look very promising if that's the path they are taking.

We can compare the max SPL plots they will publish later. Single numbers are not useful.

That's probably the most useful number, it's a max SPL accross a frequency band. But if you want the max SPL plot, they are already published on Neumann's website.

 

[574stereo]

Let me quote myself.



That's probably the most useful number, it's a max SPL accross a frequency band. But if you want the max SPL plot, they are already published on Neumann's website.

Totally misread your original post, understood now. I wonder why these have changed downwards? I know a fair few people who have had issues with rattling drivers after extended use, so it's possible that Neumann have chosen to set the limiters a little more conservatively on these newer models? 10" drivers ultimately are too small for how they get used in a studio context.

RE KH750 size... my mistake. Was confusing the 805 with the 750!

 

[zonk]

There are detailed informations available to all subwoofers (frequency response, manuals etc.)
https://www.neumann.com/en-de/products/monitors?selectedFilters=8b837f94-b5a3-436e-bae3-411d647ca56a

For example:
https://www.neumann.com/en-de/serviceundsupport/file-finder?productName=KH+805+II

 

[Andreas007]

Indeed: it would be disappointing not to see at least a KH 310 with DSP and the possibility for room EQ WITHOUT a subwoofer.

Totally agree! No KH310 successor - that's boring.

 

[Grotti]

There are only the new subwoofers it seems. This is a missed chance in my book. I don't want to stuff subwoofers in the restricted space of our living room and I will keep my RME ADI 2 pro fs for several reasons. So I would appreciate a KH 310 II to be MA1 compliant on its own. Come on, Neumann: make it happen!!! I am pretty sure, others here feel the same about it.

 

[respice finem]

I think more is coming soon - an indicator is the shortage of the old model @ Thomann, Germany, already mentioned here.

 

[boxerfan88]

IBC Show 2025 should already have started today, 9/12.

Anyone managed to go to the Neumann booth to see if KH310II or KH350 is on display?

If yes, please snap & share pictures

If no, means the subwoofer launch is it for now

 

[respice finem]

Soon, is not necessarily today... At least at the IBC webpage, no news. Good things come to those who can wait.

The Sennheiser Group at IBC 2025

Covering all bases in the audio signal chain

newsroom.neumann.com

 

[boxerfan88]

This just got posted about half hour ago on Neumann’s FB page.

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Looks like no KH310II nor KH350 launch at this time.

 

[nbot]

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Looks like no KH310II nor KH350 launch at this time.

Well, that's disappointing. I guess we'll have to wait a bit more...

 

[mj30250]

The subwoofers were announced and added to their website yesterday (9/11). The "big" announcement was scheduled for today. Perhaps they just jumped the gun, we'll soon see either way.

 

[DearSX]

A KH310ii with super clean measurements would be awesome.

 

[574stereo]

Something big probably just means ‘big subwoofer’

 

[dfuller]

Just subs? Boring.

I don't care about subs. I don't have space and don't need the headroom.