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New Neumann MA 1 - Automatic Monitor Alignment

I had the same issue when I used only one KH750. It was on the left-hand side of my desk, 1/4 the width of the room, I was able to locate the bass. Then I have bought an additional KH750, put it on the right side of my desk at 1/4 room width and now it's perfect.

But if you have the space to place a big monitor, it might be the better solution.
Seems like getting a second sub is the way to go to fix this. Still works out cheaper than buying decent 3 way monitors, I guess. Can MA1 configure/manage multiple subs? Sorry I haven't updated the app in a while.
 
Can MA1 configure/manage multiple subs? Sorry I haven't updated the app in a while.
Yes, it can (but still not in stereo sub configuration, AFAIK). I would still try to play around with the sub's placement before getting a second one, though. It also might be your perception (knowing where the sub is or seeing it you may inadvertently "locate" the bass. I think I had experienced such an effect myself).
 
Yes, it can (but still not in stereo sub configuration, AFAIK). I would still try to play around with the sub's placement before getting a second one, though. It also might be your perception (knowing where the sub is or seeing it you may inadvertently "locate" the bass. I think I had experienced such an effect myself).
I did a lot of testing and placing the subs at 1/4 and 3/4 of the room width was the best.
 
Yes, it can (but still not in stereo sub configuration, AFAIK). I would still try to play around with the sub's placement before getting a second one, though. It also might be your perception (knowing where the sub is or seeing it you may inadvertently "locate" the bass. I think I had experienced such an effect myself).
It's only while playing certain tracks where I can tell where the bass is coming from. Unfortunately I dont have enough room to move it around for best placement. I do however have enough room for another one right next to my desk.
 
I'm having a bit of an issue with me sometimes being able to locate where the sub is placed in the room. Do you think adding another 750 will fix that? I just find it distracting and somewhat annoying and its making me consider selling my 120s along with the sub and going the 3 way monitor route instead.
You use MA1 with the 750 and still can hear the sub location?
120 or 120ii?
What cross over frequency?
At all volumes?

Normally you hear a sub located when the level is WAY to high, the crossover doesn't work properly cause level is to high and phase is off or it distorts already. Or cross over is not steep enough (2nd order).
All of these problems should be solved with an MA1 setup? Or do you have very strong room resonance you trigger at the woofer loaction?

You loose the ability to place the low frequency driver at the perfect spot in the room when switching to 3-way.
 
Newsletter from Neumann:

"MA 1 – Automatic Alignment: Version 2.4 now available


Dear audio professionals, home recording enthusiasts, musicians and music fans,

MA 1 comes with another fresh update for Windows PC and Mac, making reference Automatic Monitor Alignment Software even quicker and easier:

Below, you will find a list of further improvements, updates and a high-level summary of the software’s functionality.

Feature Updates & Bug Fixes:

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Extended number of supported subwoofers to up to eight for both Bass Managed Stereo and Multichannel Systems​
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Introduced compatibility with macOS 15​
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Faster processing of alignment filters​
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Improved User Guidance during firmware updates​
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Improved User Experience of License handling​
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Increased stability when switching between multiple setups and alignments​
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Increased stability when connecting to networks with non-KH devices sending SSC​
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Preview: "Proxy Settings" which allows connection to proxies with authentication​
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Fixed: possible connectivity issues right after booting under Windows​
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Fixed: possible crash after saving an alignment​
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Fixed: possible user interface freeze on macOS​
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Fixed: "Replace Monitor" did not work in some edge cases​
"
 
Is it possible in the meantime - with this new update - to use a multisub setup in a stereo system and let MA-1 manage the subs (like DLBC, Harman ARCOS or manually by using multisub optimizer)?
 
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Is it possible in the meantime - with this new update - to use a multisub setup in a stereo system and let MA-1 manage the subs (like DLBC, Harman ARCOS or manually by using multisub optimizer)?
For 2 subs this has been possible for a long time.

I made a comparison between DLBC and MA 1 last year: https://www.audiosciencereview.com/...live-bass-control-dlbc-dual-kh750-subs.43054/

As far as i understand with the new update the number of supported subs increased from 2 to 8 in a stereo system.
 
Hi @DJBonoBobo, very interesting, thank you.

In your comparison, are both subs mono or assigned to left and right channel each?

I am driving my subs (KH810) mono, one at the front wall and one at the back wall. Thinking about adding a third one (KH750), replacing the KH810 with KH750 and am wondering if such a multisub mono setup could be be managed by MA-1.
 
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Hi @DJBonoBobo, very interesting, thank you.

In your comparison, are both subs mono or assigned to left and right channel each?

I am driving my subs (KH810) mono, one at the front wall and one at the back wall. Thinking about adding a third one (KH750), replacing the KH810 with KH750 and am wondering if such a multisub mono setup could be be managed by MA-1.

Neumann´s MA1 supports only mono subwoofers - bass below crossover is always summed to mono. Also only KH750, so you cannot combine KH810 and 750.
 
Seems like getting a second sub is the way to go to fix this. Still works out cheaper than buying decent 3 way monitors, I guess. Can MA1 configure/manage multiple subs? Sorry I haven't updated the app in a while.
It's only while playing certain tracks where I can tell where the bass is coming from. Unfortunately I dont have enough room to move it around for best placement. I do however have enough room for another one right next to my desk.
For me, the second KH750 solved the problem with the sub being locatable, now I have no idea the subs are even on (I use them with KH310A).
The pressure differential between the ears was my main issue.
With the newly added support for 8 subs, I'm thinking about two more however xD
 
I just had my KH120 ii stereo setup and ran through an alignment session. I wasn't too careful about the mic positions. Now I just want to delete this alignment. So if when I get the alignment deleted and with no more alignment, are I getting back to the default with no alignment?

Another reason to ask this is that when I had that alignment, I was interested in quickly turning off that alignment. It doesn't have an easy choice on the page. If I edit the alignment, there is check-box for me to deactivate the alignment. When I deactivated, I cannot save that disabled alignment. Did I miss something?
 
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