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New Nagra DAC announced at CES - list price $65,000

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I just want to know if there are measurements of megabuck DACs like DCS, MSB. Wadax.
 

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Ignorance is not bliss when you are listenIng to sh~tty sound. And from your reply, I know you are.
There’s nothing wrong with saying: “this is the best system I can afford”… instead, you’re saying: “you’re stupid if you spend more on gear,” which is laughable, at best.

Why don’t you borrow some better equipment and try it out?
Oh wait - because that you mean you would have to admit, to yourself, that you can’t afford it.
Anyone who is confident and comfortable with the size of their own dick can admit that.

You listen with your dick?
You certainly talk out of your arse.

S.
 

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I just want to know if there are measurements of megabuck DACs like DCS, MSB. Wadax.
I did a very careful, level matched bling listening test a few years ago, but I didn't measure them.
I had Linn, dCS, Goldmund, Resolution Audio and pro ADC/DAC recorders.
When i compared all the differences I thought would be there were not.
I was surprised, but looking at the specs i should not have been.

The thing which did make a difference was different reconstruction filters, when switchable. This isn't a surprise either because some of them roll off early and others allow artefacts to pass through in the audible range, but they are, of course, simply wrong.
 

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We had a Nagra tape recorder onboard when I was in the Navy, mid-80s. No idea why, as it was a workhorse for reporters at the time. Played with it a bit - it was a great piece of industrial design, very rugged, with the "feel" of a precision instrument. Now that recording can be done without any moving parts, it's an antique, I suppose. Not sure if this was the version, but it looked something like this:

recorder-nagra-analog-1200x698.jpg
 

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Nagra used to be a totally engineering-led company at the time when Stefan Kudelski ran the company.

Later, it split into two parts, the 'HiFi' part, run by his daughter, went all 'high-end' bollocks, trading on the visual look and reputation of the original, whilst the more engineering side specialised and still does, on video encoding, security, and digital media.

Incidentally, dCS did something similar. In the days of Mike Story, they were a totally engineering-led company, doing some great work on digital audio and custom engineering, for military and civilian purposes. I think at about the time when it was clear that digital audio was becoming a commodity, they also went all 'hifi', with more and more expensive and visually interesting products, whereas previously, they were housed in prosaic 19" rack-mount boxes.

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When a DAC costs as much as a Tesla, I think I would buy the car instead. Which has more tech, design and parts? It is hard for me to imagine any design, parts or unique build elements that could equate to 65K of sonic value for any piece of audio electronics.
 

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My first system was an all-in-one Aiwa cassette and AM/FM system. It was horrible in performance.

My Aiwa "walkman" endured for an impressively long time.

That was a sturdy little trooper.
 
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