New mysterious Genelec monitors

[Curvature]

How does a small company like Genelec can innovate more than the big brands?
like Focal , Kef etc

Genelec does the majority of their manufacturing in house.

 

[617]

How does a small company like Genele can innovate more than the big brands?
like Focal , Kef etc

Innovating is all they do. When they try to make home speakers they tend to falter.

 

[PeterMacColeman]

How does a small company like Genelec can innovate more than the big brands?
like Focal , Kef

So look at it this way. Ever tried getting 10 people to all agree on what restaurant to eat at? Much easier to get a group of 2-4 to agree than a larger group. Same thing with business

 

[新しい人]

When is Morten Lindberg going to replace his 7 X 8351B+W371 with 7 X 8381A

 

[thewas]

I'm wondering how those 4 domes work together. If I do a quick sim, it doesn't look too good. You definitely should not have this play over 1 kHz. But given the horn size, one would expect that it could play down to 800 Hz or so.

View attachment 284877
Here is a sim with 4 100mm drivers, about 25 cm apart

As it seems they are crossed lower, namely at 500 Hz:

 

[Pearljam5000]

[/QUOTE]

When is Morten Lindberg going to replace his 7 X 8351B+W371 with 7 X 8381A

I'm not sure that even him can afford it

 

[dedobot]

Killi Willi:

 

[jhenderson0107]

8381: too big. 8361: too small. 8371: just right.

 

[617]

As it seems they are crossed lower, namely at 500 Hz:

So, this is speaker nerd stuff but see the note for the crossover frequency: it's variable based on GLM calibration. Normally your crossover frequencies are fixed to create the smoothest DI for a given acoustical condition (size of woofers, horn characteristics, whatever). This system can actually adjust the crossover frequencies which will presumably alter the directivity response. This is an interesting point of flexibility.

 

[voodooless]

As it seems they are crossed lower, namely at 500 Hz:

Yeah, we have 2 crossover points of what is probably at least a 5-way system, so don't hold your breath

Did a bit more sim-ing, this time I added a midrange in the middle as well. To make them combine properly, I had to time align the middle one by .3 ms, and then I used LR2 crossovers. Turns out I had to cross the middle driver much lower than the outer 4: 500 vs 800 Hz:

Ignore anything above say 1.5 kHz, that's just the single middle driver doing its crappy thing.

 

[thewas]

Yeah, we have 2 crossover points of what is probably at least a 5-way system, so don't hold your breath

Yes but probably those 2 fixed ones are the higher ones, thus the one of the coax and the other of the coax to the 4 lower mid drivers.

 

[Koeitje]

How does a small company like Genelec can innovate more than the big brands?
like Focal , Kef etc

Genelec's revenue was €43,9M in 2021, KEF's was €74M in 2021. Both aren't especially small or big. B&W is a lot bigger than both for example. And no innovation from KEF? Have you seen the LS60? KC62?

 

[Pearljam5000]

Genelec's revenue was €43,9M in 2021, KEF's was €74M in 2021. Both aren't especially small or big. B&W is a lot bigger than both for example. And no innovation from KEF? Have you seen the LS60? KC62?

Then why doesn't B&W innovate more ?
They have a lot more R&D budgets

 

[voodooless]

Then why doesn't B&W innovate more ?

They can't even manage a flat speaker... what more would you expect?

 

[thewas]

Then why doesn't B&W innovate more ?
They have a lot more R&D budgets

B&W currently innovates more on stuff that sell well to their target audience like new membrane (diamond, "Continuum" etc) and and cabinet materials and constructions, something you also seem to desire.

Blog - Excellence. Evolved. | Bowers & Wilkins

Innovation is at the heart of everything we do. We question, we examine, we understand and then we evolve. Learn more about all the technologies that combine to make 800 Series Diamond so special here.

www.bowerswilkins.com

 

[Leporello]

OK, the most important specification of all ... how much does it cost?

Not that important. But does it do bluetooth?

 

[bodhi]

Is there any chance they will upgrade the Ones with this compression coaxial driver instead of the existing one on 8361B
for example ?
View attachment 284918

I think that question is on everybody's mind. Don't lose your sleep because of it.

 

[Blockader]

Is there any chance they will upgrade the Ones with this compression coaxial driver instead of the existing one on 8361B
for example ?
View attachment 284918

if the max SPL of other drivers don't match with the max SPL of comp. driver, what's the point of using a compression driver?

 

[Pearljam5000]

if the max SPL of other drivers don't match with the max SPL of comp. driver, what's the point of using a compression driver?

SPL is the only advantage of this driver over the "normal " one?

 

[Puddingbuks]

I’m actually a little sad over this new genelec beast mode speaker. I probably will never be able to afford it, even though I’m far from poor.