I agree and have mentioned it and Martijn says it is in their list…
But they do at least have subs ‘out.’
Keith
But they do at least have subs ‘out.’
Keith
people just prefer passive speakers, usually cabinets or suolutions for make the cabinets innert, are much better.I really dont understand why Kii are keeping so low about those speakers. They can be heard only on special events ...
Even in big Cities like Berlin or Munich they cant be auditioned in a store just any other major brand speaker. When you build a competition for genelec, D&D and similar it should be at least as accessible to the customers.
D&D are actually also not particularly easy ... but far easier to find and to hear then Kii
Really?people just prefer passive speakers, usually cabinets or suolutions for make the cabinets innert, are much better.
for example the d&d 8c has very little atenttion to be '' inner '' vs what you can found in passive speakers at 15K.
The cabinet ''level'' should be in the 1000$ range passive speakers, and passives looks nicer, stores know this fact and just sell more passives.
mybe 1000$ was too highReally?
Really?mybe 1000$ was too high
the speaker is really lightweight, its 26kg for that big cabinet plus all the weight is in the magnets + the electronics
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While in the other hand we have genelec with a peace of plastic + some minor damper. This method is good for measuring MDF, but apparently is not that great for alu alum cabinets.
Sadly ASR never developed a way to test how ''innert'' is a cabinet.
I investigated the enclosure's vibrational behavior with a plastic-tape accelerometer. It was extremely inert. The only resonant mode I found was on the sidewall, at 637Hz (fig.1), but this is vanishingly low in level, even at SPLs >90dB.
The G Three's cumulative spectral-decay plot on the tweeter axis (fig.6) is superbly clean, the only significant ridge of delayed energy occurring at the tweeter's dome-resonance frequency. (As always in my CSD graphs, ignore the ridge just below 16kHz, which is due to interference from the test computer's video circuitry.)
That method is great for mdf/hdf, the accele has a different behavior in alumn surface. So is not comparing apples to apples.
Vs q acoustics c300
You talked about Genelec too.That method is great for mdf/hdf, the accele has a different behavior in alumn surface. So is not comparing apples to apples.
I did talk about the d&d btw.
Which is mdf.
The solution fron kef also looks better than ghe whole genelec lineup solutionVs q acoustics c300
Here you know how a clean tweeter sounds like.
The cabinet itself arent going to helo the mids or tweeter to sound cleaner
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Well the second graphs indicates the solution for having the mids and highs innert, is bad vs the competition.You talked about Genelec too.
Both are plywood. The pro doesn't have the luxury outer layer. And they both measure exactly the same.Dutch and Dutch 8c Studio is MDF the 8c is plywood and hard wood.
8c | 8c Studio | |
---|---|---|
Cabinet | Solid Oak | MDF |
Direct Streaming | Yes | No |
Mount points | No | Yes |
Where does that come from?
8c Speaker - Dutch & Dutch
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8c / Studio Differences
Acoustically, the 8c and the 8c Studio are identical. There are however a few differences you should take into account when making your choice.
8c 8c Studio Cabinet Solid Oak MDF Direct Streaming Yes No Mount points No Yes
Ok, I see it now. They've changed things since I last looked. Sorry.Where does that come from?
It says solid Oak but there is a birch plywood layer under the Oak. At least the ones I owned 3 years ago had that.Ok, I see it now. They've changed things since I last looked. Sorry.
Internally, the 8c is made out of birch plywood. It is used to create the separate compartments for the drivers and to brace the cabinet, in order to increase the stiffness and strength of the cabinet.