Not sure ‘best’ is the correct adjective, hideous perhaps.
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New Genelec Main Monitor
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. The Sphäron (in the picture) cost about one million dollars has 4 18" drivers per side and dosen't fit in a standard big living room since the ceiling is to low in such a room.
I'm not familiar with this brand. Do they explain why ceiling height matters (aside from literally not fitting in the room), and how low is "too low"?
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Love the big monitors with multiple drivers
I have heard them they are certainly one of the best speaker on the planet.
The speakers are for big rooms which bring some benefits in room acoustics. They are created with the intention to build an ultimate speaker where money doesn't matter. They have many "smaller" "more affordable" models which are for normal rooms.
I have heard various Acapella speakers over the years at the Hi-Fi ‘Deluxe’ show, I never once thought ‘these are one of the best speakers’.
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OK I listend to the Sphäron in the Acapella show room and it sounded fantastic. Nothing compared to any small speaker system. Some older systems form Acapella are a bit bass shy and haven't perfect tonality but all newer models are absolutely phantastic. Even their "smallest" speaker the Harlekin 2 is better than almost all reference speakers from the usually praised brand here IMHO.
A customer had a smaller pair the ‘Viola’ the midrange driver was extremely inexpensive, I was a little surprised for such an expensive speaker.
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Well since we're so far off the rails anyway.
Also, lol. Nothing like an upward pointing in room response.
https://www.stereophile.com/content/acapella-high-violoncello-ii-loudspeaker-measurements
He means the Violon.
Also, lol. Nothing like an upward pointing in room response.
https://www.stereophile.com/content/acapella-high-violoncello-ii-loudspeaker-measurements
Yes my mistake, those are the ones he had… terrible.
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At a nearly two-year round searching for nice big horns (destined for a big space) Acapella didn't even make the top ten.
None of them.
Not that they were bad, I guess some type of audiophile music makes them enjoyable, they can play loud, etc.
But, no meat in terms of the energy area, no midbass hit and boi, they could get bright, horny bright but their own way, but the later is adjustable if I'm not mistaken.
Not bad but no 50k euro (at the time, street price) niceness.
None of them.
Not that they were bad, I guess some type of audiophile music makes them enjoyable, they can play loud, etc.
But, no meat in terms of the energy area, no midbass hit and boi, they could get bright, horny bright but their own way, but the later is adjustable if I'm not mistaken.
Not bad but no 50k euro (at the time, street price) niceness.
Ok 15 years old, at that time I wasn't aware of the brand. The older models are more a hit or miss from everything I know. The measurements don't look that good tonality wise. But they seems to have very low to no resonances and good high signal handling.
The absence of resonances and distortion at very high spl handeling was really amazing from the speakers I was listening to. The tonality was also very good. What really stands out is that instruments sound much more real e.g. a snare realy sound like a snare and not like a toy version of a snare with the typically dome tweeter ppsss sound which 95% of speakers with a dome tweeter produce.
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These horn speakers, or Christmas tree decorative speakers, are definitely not perfect products. Listen to heavy metal, techno, blues music, etc., and the sound is absolutely awful.
Monitor speakers in studios are designed to reproduce all genres as authentically as possible, and some manufacturers are able to do this, but these HIGH-END horn speakers are intended for fans of very specific types of music. And too many people fall into the trap of their own deception, without realizing that a super speaker must sound as good as possible with all genres of music, not just elevator music or light music for older people.
Monitor speakers in studios are designed to reproduce all genres as authentically as possible, and some manufacturers are able to do this, but these HIGH-END horn speakers are intended for fans of very specific types of music. And too many people fall into the trap of their own deception, without realizing that a super speaker must sound as good as possible with all genres of music, not just elevator music or light music for older people.
Ok which brand was your favorite and which model wasn't to your liking. If there is a company with better horn speakers I am very interested to know. The more famous brands like Avantgarde, Klipsch and so on was to me like expensive but not so good PA speakers...
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I don't get people's obsession with big horn speakers
Come on monitor speakers are not necessarily less colored. The smaller Genelec for example like 95% of speakers can't play back any instruments with high energy in the tweeter band correctly. They all sound more like a psss from a snare not like a tst like a real snare sounds, no matter how hard you try to equalize the speaker...
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The final choice was Blumenhofer DV-3.
(not mine, my best friend's)
Everest's was close but not exactly a bargain in Europe with the added import taxes at the time. Very dynamic as well though.
Aries Cerat were strange .
That was some time ago though, I believe a lot happened at the last decade or two.
My favorite horns are NOT about the sound but looks, these ones:
(not at that color though)
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test1234.
I've already mentioned this here almost a hundred billion times. If a speaker competes in the same net volume as the size of the enclosure against another competitor, Genelec beats most of its competitors with the Ones series and the Master series.
But if the measurement is only sound pressure, many PA speakers and hi-fi speakers sound louder and stronger, and there is more bass.
In any case, the highest sound reproduction that humans are capable of comes from these Genelec speakers, because the sound purity has been refined much further through the use of glm/dsp software, even with aes/ebu digital.
I've already mentioned this here almost a hundred billion times. If a speaker competes in the same net volume as the size of the enclosure against another competitor, Genelec beats most of its competitors with the Ones series and the Master series.
But if the measurement is only sound pressure, many PA speakers and hi-fi speakers sound louder and stronger, and there is more bass.
In any case, the highest sound reproduction that humans are capable of comes from these Genelec speakers, because the sound purity has been refined much further through the use of glm/dsp software, even with aes/ebu digital.
And why does the snare sound like a psss and not like a tst at any volume? It is because many small dome tweeters have a inherent sound signature! The brand Bohne audio was founded because of this. If you know what to listen for you find the weak point of any speaker fast...
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test1234.
I really don't know which models you're talking about.
Are you talking about Genelec products from the 1990s, 2000s, maybe the 2010s or 2020s?
Tell me the name and model. Thanks.
In any case, I can't understand your thoughts when you speak so vaguely. It's a bit like being in a meeting where the CEO is stuffing his mouth with buns and trying to say something particularly clever, dressed in an expensive, stylish suit and an expensive tie. It drives everyone in the audience crazy.
I really don't know which models you're talking about.
Are you talking about Genelec products from the 1990s, 2000s, maybe the 2010s or 2020s?
Tell me the name and model. Thanks.
In any case, I can't understand your thoughts when you speak so vaguely. It's a bit like being in a meeting where the CEO is stuffing his mouth with buns and trying to say something particularly clever, dressed in an expensive, stylish suit and an expensive tie. It drives everyone in the audience crazy.
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