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New Genelec Main Monitor

Oh I dunno... Genelec have good design and good sound, down to a fine art by all accounts and should be applauded for their efforts and product evolution (I bet their earliest models are extremely good too if not quite as detail-refined as modern ones).

Male orientated hobbies (and music tastes too) can be very cultish (ladies are usually far more sensible :D). I think at this level, one just needs to see the kind of environment these monitors are used in and the albums you like that may have been mixed and mastered using them... It's still ATC for me, but I readily accept that there are other modern designs that have created some wonderful commercial recordings these days :)
I'd like to add that the percentage of home usage with the bigger Genelec must be minuscule. People who buy these know very well what they are buying, for considerable expense - and do so with quite some experience in the field. It is a brand, that has a well earned place - in an environment that I would not consider even close to anything like a cult. Not exactly a hobby, per se - either. :rolleyes: Are some people in the "hobby" into it? Sure. Again, minuscule.

Cheers
 
I love my Genelecs, and I think it should be obvious to anyone here at ASR that there's almost never any such thing as a brand whose products are uniquely good. Genelecs are among the best, yes, but there are multiple other pro monitor brands and designs that produce similarly excellent results, and there are hi-fi/consumer targeted products (and products like Dutch & Dutch 8c which seem to be marketed in a hybrid pro/consumer way) that have similarly excellent performance as well.

Offerings from Neumann, Meyer, Messanovic, Dutch & Dutch, MoFi, KEF, Revel, Asciilab, and many others I'm momentarily forgetting are, on the whole, just as good - some models are better in some ways, very similar in others, inferior in others, better or worse value depending on your needs, and more or less preferable depending on your room, your listening distance, and your personal taste in dispersion/directivity characteristics.

There is indeed a cultish, overstated praise of Genelecs in some posts here - but IMHO those posts are a very small percentage of the favorable posts about the brand - and let's not forget that there's also a line of commentary that is arguably a little too dramatic or overblown about the Genelecs' drawbacks or limitations - and those over-the-top comments are also a small percentage of the critical posts about the brand's offerings.
 
of home usage
A waveguide and 15" woofer are a fairly typical solution for home stereo audio [in certain\narrow circles (sometimes two or 18" woofers are used)].
As for price, the M2 stereo set seems a little more expensive, while a pair of 4367s (w\o amp) is cheaper, and the Max2 is cheaper. A DIY setup or some PA speakers are even cheaper. And BlueHorn is significantly more expensive..
 
If I was new to ASR the only "cult" following I'd think of is KEF , as it seems to be universally praised.
 
Really made me laugh, no shit :D Not far away from Polish mentality, BTW.
But still, all Finnish stuff I used so far was good shit (Nokia, Sako, Vihtavuori)...
So, should the JBL in my living room need replacement, I might replace them with Genelec, why not.
 
Listening to these at PAVS 2025...
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Here's a bonus, I wonder if Genelec sneaked in a phase plug without telling anyone.

Notice how some of the holes of the grille are closed and form a ring above the tweeter.
 

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Does not look like a ring though, does it? Hyphenated phase lug? Strange.
 

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Does not look like a ring though, does it? Hyphenated phase lug? Strange.
Yes, it strangely looks like the classic drawing that represents φ .

Sacred geometry and golden ratio, we're heading straight for a conspiracy theory :oops:
 
Looks like a botched paint job - but, my grille over the tweeter has similar patterns, with some light angles, so it might IMHO be an illusion.
 
Does not look like a ring though, does it? Hyphenated phase lug? Strange.
The perspective is distorting the ring. I looked at it from different angles and on both speakers. IRL it's circular and present on both speakers. The 8361 next to them did not have that structure on their grille, neither did the 8351 or the 8331 in the same room.

I've drawn a circle over the closed off holes to make it more apparent. The grille is a dome and the picture was not taken straight on, hence the weird shape of the circle.
 

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