New Genelec Main Monitor

[DSJR]

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Now you've torn it I'll always see this picture when looking at them now

 

[respice finem]

Just call them Garfield

 

[Pearljam5000]

The M2 is much bigger, 50 inch tall vs 32 inch of the 8380
I wonder if the bigger cabinet also means it has more bass output

 

[ckernel8]

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The M2 is much bigger, 50 inch tall vs 32 inch of the 8380
I wonder if the bigger cabinet also means it has more bass output

I mean yes...

 

[dfuller]

I wonder if the bigger cabinet also means it has more bass output

Really suggest you do some reading on speaker design.

In the case of the M2, yes, it does have lower bass extension. But it really isn't that simple.

 

[Pearljam5000]

Really suggest you do some reading on speaker design.

In the case of the M2, yes, it does have lower bass extension. But it really isn't that simple.

Which one would you choose between them?

 

[kharan]

I would choose the Genelec M2 which is objectively superior to the JBL 8380.

 

[dfuller]

Which one would you choose between them?

Neither. They're both way too big for my space.

 

[Pearljam5000]

Neither. They're both way too big for my space.

The 8380 can be used as nearfield

 

[dfuller]

The 8380 can be used as nearfield

No, I mean I literally can't make speakers bigger than KH420s work.

 

[Flaesh]

Really suggest you do some reading on speaker design.

In the case of the M2, yes, it does have lower bass extension. But it really isn't that simple.

I agree with these wishes.
By the way, my home speakers (24" waveguide and 15" midbass) are only 40 liters in volume and don't produce bass below 80 Hz. This is because they are designed and built to work with a subwoofer system.

 

[dagfinn]

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The M2 is much bigger, 50 inch tall vs 32 inch of the 8380
I wonder if the bigger cabinet also means it has more bass output

They do go a little lower, but you still need subs. Two for stereo, - which didn't fit in the picture.

7380a is so small, you can tuck it away under your desk.

 

[Flaesh]

Now you've torn it I'll always see this picture when looking at them now

This can be made from LED neon flex

 

[Sokel]

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The M2 is much bigger, 50 inch tall vs 32 inch of the 8380
I wonder if the bigger cabinet also means it has more bass output

That's an unfair comparison, you should compare them with the real big boys.

 

[Behrelec 37]

The highest-level heavyweight boxers compete as if in Genelec's Masters series and the new 8380a/8381a series.

The other smaller series compete in speed, knocking out their opponents with numerous series of blows and tight discipline to keep the sound image sharply focused on the listener. Speed, accuracy, and endurance are the demonstrations of power that bring results.

 

[Pearljam5000]

That's an unfair comparison, you should compare them with the real big boys.

I compared because they both have 15 inch woofers

 

[Sokel]

I compared because they both have 15 inch woofers

15" on its own says nothing, its the added volume that matters as well.

 

[Pekka Perämoottori]

JBL has chosen a 2-way design with an 800 Hz crossover for the M2, which at that height of the woofer creates a massive crater in the room response from floor reflection. A complete idiotic choice for such a speaker.

Genelec is able to avoid this with a 3-way design and a 470 Hz crossover, strategically placed on a 20-30 cm stand.

In a practical room situation, Genelec has the aforementioned acoustic advantage already due to its basic design and completes the knockout with its other top features. The JBL M2 has no chance. The 8380 sorts it out so hard that the beating can be heard all the way to the Alaskan audio observation station.

 

[ckernel8]

JBL has chosen a 2-way design with an 800 Hz crossover for the M2, which at that height of the woofer creates a massive crater in the room response from floor reflection. A complete idiotic choice for such a speaker.

Genelec is able to avoid this with a 3-way design and a 470 Hz crossover, strategically placed on a 20-30 cm stand.

In a practical room situation, Genelec has the aforementioned acoustic advantage already due to its basic design and completes the knockout with its other top features. The JBL M2 has no chance. The 8380 sorts it out so hard that the beating can be heard all the way to the Alaskan audio observation station.

Sensing a bit of national bias here

 

[JaapD]

Sensing a bit of national bias here

Maybe, maybe not. But I do think Pekka has a serious point. Let’s focus on some facts. JBL does have a high crossover point with 800 Hz and a 15 inch driver. Some of their other designs with 1000-1200 Hz on 12 inch drivers. Far from ideal if you’d ask me, likely a net result from being only a two way system. I find Genelec’s 470 Hz already a bit on the high side but significantly better in that regard.