New Genelec Main Monitor

[ssashton]

When flush mounted on a large wall, 8380's can have the bass directivity control of a cardioid speaker while also having less front wall SBIR.

Yes, but the pros and cons of cardioid are a bit more nuanced.

It’s often said that a cardioid speaker is advantageous for situations that require placement close to the front wall (the wall behind the speaker) because the rear null pattern reduces boundary reinforcement. In practice, the real advantage is reduced room interaction - and to achieve that, the speaker should be positioned further out into the room so that more of the room area falls within the cardioid’s rear null.

If we assume a fixed room size and listening distance, soffit-mounting a speaker and moving the listening position forward to maintain distance does improve LF directivity control, but it also maximises the amount of room area excited by the speaker. It’s really a balance between the direct and reverberant fields. The same trade-off applies to conventional speakers above the baffle step frequency, but it becomes more pronounced with mid-LF cardioid designs. TLDR move cardioid speakers out so more of the room is within the rear null.

 

[dagfinn]

Someone has been paying attention to the Sigberg´s Manta.

1022a from 1985 on the left.... .

"The Genelec 8380A is a three-way monitoring
system for medium sized control rooms. It
performs well as a free-standing monitor as
well as flush-mounted in control room walls."

https://assets.ctfassets.net/4zjnzn055a4v/4m3lpEnGsdFgORnRt6M1wz/ebdfd3d942087991152c550304c58f81/Genelec_8380A_Main_Monitor_Operating_Manual.pdf

 

[darth]

Dream setupView attachment 480456

tempting...

My only issue is that I still like my large oled screens. Getting a center that big will hamper visuals. My 8351b center barely fits :/ and have to angle it upwards.

 

[ssashton]

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1022a from 1985 on the left.... .

"The Genelec 8380A is a three-way monitoring
system for medium sized control rooms. It
performs well as a free-standing monitor as
well as flush-mounted in control room walls."

https://assets.ctfassets.net/4zjnzn055a4v/4m3lpEnGsdFgORnRt6M1wz/ebdfd3d942087991152c550304c58f81/Genelec_8380A_Main_Monitor_Operating_Manual.pdf

Honestly the 1022 gets my vote on style

 

[Pearljam5000]

Which setup would you choose :
8361+subs
Or 8380 (not soffit mounted), no subs

 

[darth]

Which setup would you choose :
8361+subs
Or 8380 (not soffit mounted), no subs

For me, purely subjectively speaking, those colored ones might trump anything. If I can match my decor, and the fact that I have to look at my speakers more than listen to them. If W371 were also available in colors, that would be the route I go.

 

[Pearljam5000]

For me, purely subjectively speaking, those colored ones might trump anything. If I can match my decor, and the fact that I have to look at my speakers more than listen to them. If W371 were also available in colors, that would be the route I go.

RAL colors are not available for 8361 according to the website

 

[ssashton]

Which setup would you choose :
8361+subs
Or 8380 (not soffit mounted), no subs

I'd need to hear them. I bet both would be more than satisfactory though! Are you actually shopping?

 

[Pearljam5000]

I'd need to hear them. I bet both would be more than satisfactory though! Are you actually shopping?

I wish
Just wanted to know what's the popular opinion around here

 

[Impossible]

Yes I have to hear them. I really love the 8341a. But I never liked the 8361a as much as I tried. I also have 8050b for another room and may never sell them.

I’m really hoping with the lighter midrange, class ab tweeter and more tactile feel, this could be end game.

They would be a replacement for a 2 way system comprising of a 4” beryllium compression driver and a 15" tetracoail woofer. Digital Crossover 500h etc. they do 130db.

I wonder how the new Genelec 5” midrange would compare to the 4" beryllium. I definitely feel the seperate tweeter of the Genelec would be advantageous.

 

[test1223]

This new Genelec looks similar to the decades old JBL Control 30 …

Everything is a remix If you build speakers I guess you almost always find something similar.

 

[Pearljam5000]

Yes I have to hear them. I really love the 8341a. But I never liked the 8361a as much as I tried. I also have 8050b for another room and may never sell them.

I’m really hoping with the lighter midrange, class ab tweeter and more tactile feel, this could be end game.

They would be a replacement for a 2 way system comprising of a 4” beryllium compression driver and a 15" tetracoail woofer. Digital Crossover 500h etc. they do 130db.

I wonder how the new Genelec 5” midrange would compare to the 4" beryllium. I definitely feel the seperate tweeter of the Genelec would be advantageous.

Lighter midrange?

 

[Impossible]

Lighter midrange?

yes apparently the 8380a midrange is lighter and stronger then the one in the 8361a/8351b.

 

[Tovarich007]

I wish
Just wanted to know what's the popular opinion around here

You'v got a realistic answer a few posts before, I just develop the same kind of answer : there are some (not large) differences in SPL, directivity control at various frequency range between these two models, and between many others. It leads to some differneces in sound of the speakers per themselves (but you have rooms modes, EQs, calibration, etc.)
So go to listen to them if you can, and also Kef Blade, Arendal, PSI, Neumann and big Mofis, etc, whatever good speakers you're interested in.

And then buy the one you prefer or the one you can afford.

If you compare several objectively very good speakers (they all are), you'll always find more or less tiny differences in your room with your musical sources and preferences. And you have the right to prefer a particular esthetic style design too, it matters when you are in a living room and watch the speaker all day long. So, as for me (and only for me) as good as it is ,I won't put the 8380 in it (it's a super good SOTA professional tool, great respect for Genelec, but it won't be MY choice).

It's always a matter of subjective taste in the end (even for pros), we're not a laboraty lab, just music and sound lovers.
What else could I add ??

You know, if I had the money and not other much more important expenses to do than audio gear, I would go for a french JMR in my relatively small listening room, JMR isn't the best objectively speaking, though their speakers are good, but I love this small brand, their speakers sound, since many many years.

Maybe after this, some forum members who read or write in this topic will consider me as an heretic, but I don't care.

 

[dagfinn]

Two-tone, anyone? Should be possible with current parts...

 

[respice finem]

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Two-tone, anyone? Should be possible with current parts...

the left one IMHO looks better than the "cat head" white variant:

GENELEC 8380A - weiß

Entwickelt für die Wahrheit ? vereint Leistung, Performance und Präzision

www.hoerzone.de

That said I would rather buy it in plain black.

 

[Sokel]

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Two-tone, anyone? Should be possible with current parts...

They look like those crashed-repaired cars with one door unpainted still.
Nope.

The one thing I would do would be screw covers, right out of the box

 

[respice finem]

...but when it means divorce vs. only no sex for a week...

 

[Pearljam5000]

Is that top part aluminum?

 

[Sokel]

...but when it means divorce vs. only no sex for a week...

There's no anti-divorce speaker that can kick.
There's only anti-divorce room, I built one with my new house and it's the best thing I ever did.