New Edifier MR3 with adjustable HPF

[roladyzator]

Looks like there's a new "monitor" from Edifier, the MR3 with 3.5 inch mid-woofer.

2.0 Monitor Speaker System | MR3 -【Edifier】

Discover the Edifier MR3 2.0 monitor speaker system, equipped with dimpled tweeter waveguides and Hi-Res Audio certification, it supports 24bit/96kHz processing for high-quality sound, with multiple acoustic settings, Bluetooth V5.4, balanced TRS, RCA, AUX inputs, and a headphone output, it's...

www.edifier.com

There's some interesting things going on about this one:

• The anechoic on-axis measurements look pretty good
• Bluetooth connectivity
• App to configure the DSP
• Ability to set a high-pass filter with adjustable frequency and attenuation

The last point looks especially useful - it means you can get a cheaper subwoofer that doesn't have an HPF since there's one in the MR3.

I have the MR4 with a Presonus Sub8 BT. It's all right for the price.
I imagine today I could choose the MR3 and get a larger subwoofer (in Poland, local brand STX sells a 70W, 10 inch subwoofer (without HPF) for the price of the 50W, 8 inch Presonus).

I'd like to see a review of these, to confirm if the FR shown by Edifier makes sense.
If it does, I think these are an improvement over MR4s.

Just posting this here for anyone in the market for small, cheap desktop speakers.

 

[roladyzator]

Just found out there is another model - M60, with a "3" long-throw aluminum" mid-woofer and separate amps for woofer and tweeter, LDAC and USB-C input.

M60 Compact Desktop 2.0 Speakers

66W (RMS) total output power Hi-Res Audio and Hi-Res Audio Wireless certified Bluetooth V5.3, USB-C, and AUX inputs Speaker stands included

edifier-online.com

No mention of adjustable bass cut-off, though.

 

[Bleib]

Erin likes it more than mr4

 

[Vladetz]

Just found out there is another model - M60, with a "3" long-throw aluminum" mid-woofer and separate amps for woofer and tweeter, LDAC and USB-C input.

M60 Compact Desktop 2.0 Speakers

66W (RMS) total output power Hi-Res Audio and Hi-Res Audio Wireless certified Bluetooth V5.3, USB-C, and AUX inputs Speaker stands included

edifier-online.com

No mention of adjustable bass cut-off, though.

If anyone is interested, here are my measurements of M60 on desk done with Umik-1

I think that 127Hz peak is caused by desk

 

[Tio]

If anyone is interested, here are my measurements of M60 on desk done with Umik-1View attachment 423458
I think that 127Hz peak is caused by desk

What does each line on the graph represent? left / right / or both?

 

[Vladetz]

Blue - both, green - left, red - right

 

[uwotm8]

I don't believe these sound good whatever Erin talks.
Not only because there's no bass at all and we have that "ascending"/bright tonality tilt.
Saw-like FR means that - higly likely - there is severe coloration in midrange and especially @2-3 kHz.

Well, tone knobs can at least make it kinda bat-shape (Harman, is that you? ) so with max bass you get sort of "compensated" response but with a hollow midrange. For $50-80 I would have no complains at all but these are priced same as MR4 which - in updated version that came out roughly 1-2 years after initial reviews - seem to be stupidly linear.

 

[roladyzator]

View attachment 424562
I don't believe these sound good whatever Erin talks.
Not only because there's no bass at all and we have that "ascending"/bright tonality tilt.
Saw-like FR means that - higly likely - there is severe coloration in midrange and especially @2-3 kHz.
View attachment 424563
Well, tone knobs can at least make it kinda bat-shape (Harman, is that you? ) so with max bass you get sort of "compensated" response but with a hollow midrange. For $50-80 I would have no complains at all but these are priced same as MR4 which - in updated version that came out roughly 1-2 years after initial reviews - seem to be spupidly linear.

In isolation, they might be good enough for a "spare" system, especially now that they have Bluetooth.
I still think I'd rather take these over the MR4 (which I own and enjoy) today.

And you can get an MR3 / MR4 with a 8 to 10 inch subwoofer for the price of Kali LP-UNF, Adam D3V or even a pair of JBL 305p or Adam T5V.
I'd trade broadband linearity for better bass extension as I don't need very accurate speakers.

Regarding MR4 - didn't someone from Edifier post here that there is no new version of MR4?
Either they have huge unit variation, or they're not admitting to a silent (and much welcome) revision.

 

[uwotm8]

And you can get an MR3 / MR4 with a 8 to 10 inch subwoofer for the price of Kali LP-UNF, Adam D3V or even a pair of JBL 305p or Adam T5V

Yes, but sub will be the same (junk) quality, typical slow-n-cheap bass reflex with effective range around 40-120 Hz.
The only "around $200" brand subs I know are PreSounus and Mackie 8" models - pretty much what I mentioned in a (cheap) nutshell. Also maybe 6.5" Edifier T5 - well, it "exists".
Oh wait, there was maybe Elac sub (?) praised by some reviews and dirt cheap on Amazon but again the same grade.
T5Vs solely with no sub will destroy that combo because of another level of everything - linearity, resolution/details, stage, distortion and so on, except you're focused on SPL regardless of quality/distortion. Not even mentioning how hollow 3" sound in upper bass/lower midrange area; yes, you can try to make sub play that, but it will be obvious then.
Sub may stay "undetectable" if it's crossed over around 50-80 Hz, not the case for MR3 definitely.

 

[uwotm8]

they're not admitting to a silent (and much welcome) revision

Looks like that, because - check it https://www.audiosciencereview.com/...easurements-its-probably-been-upgraded.42941/

 

[roladyzator]

Looks like I've got the new one, at least based on my measurements.
The room is untreated and I have a null at 100 and 150 Hz, but above around 4 kHz they seem similar to what was measured.

Edifier MR4 measurements (It's probably been upgraded.)

check with a frequency genrator if 3khz is louder or quieter than 2khz. maybe use a dezibel measurement app if you cant decide by ear. anyway both are pretty good. When I measure it from 15-20cm, 2kHz is 49.5dB and 3kHz is 52.4dB. When I get my iPhone's microphone closer to the source, the...

audiosciencereview.com

I'm looking forward to upgrading my MR4 this year.
I'm tempted to try the Kali IN-8 V2 as I've never heard a 3-way and a coaxial design at that.
Plus, I want something I can move to a living room every now and then.

 

[uwotm8]

I'm tempted to try the Kali IN-8 V2 as I've never heard a 3-way and a coaxial design at that

I highly suggest not to limit yourself with Kali despite all the hype and check Adam T series, A series (A7V) and Dynaudio BM5A III as well. And maybe KEF coaxials too

 

[roladyzator]

I highly suggest not to limit yourself with Kali despite all the hype and check Adam T series, A series (A7V) and Dynaudio BM5A III as well. And maybe KEF coaxials too

KEF is too expensive for me. I wasn't aware of the Dynaudio, though.
I think the Adam T (and A) look very classy, and since I live in Poland I can get a good price on those, with 5 year warranty too!

 

[AnalogSteph]

My "kitchen-fi" project led me to a white pair of MR3s. Here are my initial impressions.

Power measurements according to my Zhurui PR10 "Power Recorder" -
Off - 0.16 W
On - 3.15 W (analog playback barely adds anything)
On, ongoing BT playback - 3.30 W

 

[AnalogSteph]

For S&Gs, I placed them atop my trusty K+H O110s, which had recently moved back and are now firing past my monitor at about 0.5 m (should have done that much sooner, imaging is way more precise). Would the MR3s be able to stand in? Well, not quite, although they are quite good. There's this zingy upper treble, and the bass just can't shake that bit of "small speaker sound", especially at high levels (and it goes without saying that level handling isn't anywhere close either, although you can improve matters by adjusting the highpass). Imaging doesn't feel as pinpoint either. At a similar input sensitivity, I have the volume up at 29/30, where the normally-negligible hiss becomes quite noticeable (terminating the unused inputs may be a good idea). The crossover must be fairly well-designed, as I don't notice any nasty surprises in the vertical. Of course I was curious how they'd fare in the measurement department, so here's the result moving the mic around my main listening position centered somewhere around tweeter height (1/48 oct smoothing):

Bass is a bit messy, I think being around half room height is not ideal. Note that the O110s are generally behaving themselves past about 300-400 Hz (see below), so the high-Q eccentricities above that are likely to be real. Several of the things Erin was pointing out are visible. Some of the ~2.7 kHz peak seems to be swallowed by my absorbers.

I think the steep dropoff below the mid-50s is a room thing.