New Dutch&Dutch loudspeakers.

[Emlin]

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[Purité Audio]

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Keith

 

[CtheArgie]

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[sigbergaudio]

! = The Desperate Dealer Formerly Known As Keith

 

[greyhound]

I'm intrigued about these smaller "6"s, mostly because I'm hoping they'll be within reach for me money-wise. However, thinking about them has brought to the front of my mind a question about what constitutes the 'correct' speaker size for a room. I notice that Genelec state what feels like very short optimal distance for their monitors (especially 833x and 834x) but companies like Sigberg seem to have wider tolerances for similar size monitors (eg SBS1).

I'd be curious to hear from more knowledgable folks about this. FWIW in my TV room I have 2x Genelec 8340 and a 7360, with a listening distance of ~3m and I couldn't be happier. I'm thinking about a new system for the (bigger) living room but the Mantas and 8Cs are out of my budget for a few years at least...

 

[Purité Audio]

There really isn’t a ‘correct’ size, there is a minimum listening distance, there is the question of how loudly you wish to play and how far away you are sitting.
Really full-range loudspeakers might excite the room but that is easily rectified, particularly when the speakers have built in PEQ.
Keith

 

[greyhound]

There really isn’t a ‘correct’ size, there is a minimum listening distance, there is the question of how loudly you wish to play and how far away you are sitting.
Really full-range loudspeakers might excite the room but that is easily rectified, particularly when the speakers have built in PEQ.
Keith

Thanks, that's really useful. I tend to listen at a max of 86db or so, as I've shredded my ears enough over the years. In the living room I'd be 3.5m from the speakers (assuming they're placed against the front wall. So, I think it should be able to figure this out for my living room based on that data? Is there a specific formula?

The overall room area is 26m2.

 

[Purité Audio]

I would always recommend hearing and comparing a few ‘probables’ in your room, but 86dB at 3.5m is not that outrageously loud.
I listen at more or less the same distance.
Keith

 

[greyhound]

I would always recommend hearing and comparing a few ‘probables’ in your room, but 86dB at 3.5m is not that outrageously loud.
I listen at more or less the same distance.
Keith

Thanks again Keith, I think that's what I'll do nearer the time.

 

[sigbergaudio]

I'm intrigued about these smaller "6"s, mostly because I'm hoping they'll be within reach for me money-wise. However, thinking about them has brought to the front of my mind a question about what constitutes the 'correct' speaker size for a room. I notice that Genelec state what feels like very short optimal distance for their monitors (especially 833x and 834x) but companies like Sigberg seem to have wider tolerances for similar size monitors (eg SBS1).

I'd be curious to hear from more knowledgable folks about this. FWIW in my TV room I have 2x Genelec 8340 and a 7360, with a listening distance of ~3m and I couldn't be happier. I'm thinking about a new system for the (bigger) living room but the Mantas and 8Cs are out of my budget for a few years at least...

The SBS.1 has far higher dynamic range than almost any similar sized monitor (due to the speaker system with sub approach), that's why the maximum listening distance is likely listed as further away than most others.

 

[staticV3]

Therein lies the reason I haven't bought 8Cs from you.
Everything about them appeals, pistonic drivers, clever engineering but I want to play CDs, LPs and classical music and have a rotary volume control so without that capability they have not been an option which I am genuinely disappointed and sad about.

Not sure I understand.

The 8C has regular XLR Line in, so just add a Pre of your choice that has the right functionality and you're good to go, no?

 

[Purité Audio]

Frank’s used to his own knob.
Keith

 

[Rednaxela]

Who isn't?

 

[Purité Audio]

I have never used Frank’s knob to the best of my recollection, actually thinking back I may have given it a twiddle.
Do you remember there used to be a nice chap on the forum who used a pair of binoculars to look at the volume level of his DVLA.
Keith

 

[Frank Dernie]

Not sure I understand.

The 8C has regular XLR Line in, so just add a Pre of your choice that has the right functionality and you're good to go, no?

If a preamp exists with a remote control that isn’t a plastic pos and does have a rotary volume control on it let me know. That will be the right functionality.
I haven’t found one yet so I stick to my Devialet.

 

[Kal Rubinson]

If a preamp exists with a remote control that isn’t a plastic pos and does have a rotary volume control let me know.

I don't use preamps any more but I know that Pass and I think there are likely to be many competitors in that range.

 

[Frank Dernie]

I don't use preamps any more but I know that Pass and I think there are likely to be many competitors in that range.

Pass aren’t on my radar here really but a quick look on their web site shows the normal sort of remote sticks, none had a rotary volume control that I saw.
The Devialet Phantoms have rotary control available and a virtual one on a phone app but the app isn’t ergonomic, I didn’t buy the rotary remote for them.

 

[Kal Rubinson]

Pass aren’t on my radar here really but a quick look on their web site shows the normal sort of remote sticks, none had a rotary volume control that I saw.

Sorry. I misread your statement. The only wireless RC with a rotary VC that I can recall was the Hafler of sainted memory.

 

[mglobe]

Sorry. I misread your statement. The only wireless RC with a rotary VC that I can recall was the Hafler of sainted memory.

Trinnov have one, but best I can tell it only works with their pro equipment.

 

[JeremyFife]

Is this old thread of any interest?
Thread 'My Kingdom For A Remote Volume Knob! can this be made?' https://audiosciencereview.com/foru...-a-remote-volume-knob-can-this-be-made.34810/