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New development thread: Sigberg Audio SBS Generation 2

This looks close to Pantone's Color of the Year for 2026, how did you know? :p



The Pantone color looks a bit darker (the Shady white color actually looks more or less white unless you see it next to actual white), but otherwise very similar yes! :)

I like it a lot, as it somehow looks deeper, softer and more luxurious than regular white, while still appearing to be mostly white. It's like an ultra bright grey.
 
It's close to the color Salt by Farrow&Ball (on the wall on the pictures below). But it's slightly brighther and/or appears brighter on the speakers than on these pictures.

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Seas anechoic chamber booked for next Tuesday. Will probably bring a subwoofer as well and see if we're able to create full range Spinorama measurements.
 
Some preliminary measurements then of the full system with subwoofer, with 10 deg as reference axis.
Bass is difficult in an anechoic situation, but it's at least a better representation than the previous measurements of SBS.1 and Manta which have been without sub (and thus not of the full system). What we typically see in-room is that the room gain compensates for the drop-off, so the actual in-room response in the bass is flat to around 20-25hz depending on the room.

Reference axis (10deg):
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CTA-2034:
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Based on test made between the NFS and the Seas chamber, the Seas measures about 3dB lower at 30hz, and around 5dB less at 25hz. Should perhaps be compensated for in the data, but currently not done.
 
Dip at 200hz and slight peak at ~350hz is also not ideal, will be looked into. That being said the dip is about -1dB and the peak around +1dB, so it's not crazy town.
 
So, what's the purpose of going to the anechoic chamber, and how does it typically go? I can do relatively good measurements semi-anechoically in a dedicated room I use for this, as well as outside. but it's good to verify these measurements in the anechoic chamber that I know is pretty accurate down to 40-50hz. Especially the 100-500hz range is difficult semi-anechoically.

Also, if I am to create CTA-2034-data for graphs + spinorama.org, I have to do that at Seas, since I unfortunately do not have 100,000USD for a Klippel NFS at this point in time. It's still not perfect even in the chamber, especially vertical measurements, but at least pretty good.

Doing this at Seas means taking 70(72) individual, manual measurements from different angles, which takes maybe 90 minutes, not including initial setup. So I was at Seas for about 3 hours yesterday. The screen is small (making small deviations look even smaller) and my head is mostly focused on the mechanics of it all, so there's usually not a lot of detecting issues and active fine tuning of these in the moment. What normally happens is that it looks pretty good when I'm there, and then I find a number of small issues when I look at the measurements back home, and I'm forced to go back again - which is probably the case this time around as well. :D

Anywhooo, let's analyze what we have then.

On-axis - overall this is very tidy, and as we already know this coaxial driver is very competent, very little diffraction even on-axis:
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Reference angle (10deg) - I don't recommend pointing the speakers directly at you with any of our systems, so the reference angle is 10 degrees. Here we see a number of small issues. Note: The overall response is +/-2.5dB from around 43hz to 18.5khz, so we're nitpicking here.
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  • The bass extension (-6dB at 29hz as reported by Spinorama.org) is a bit lower than actual, since the chamber reports lower bass than what we actually have, compared both to groundplane measurements and the Klippel NFS. So this is a measurement anomaly.
  • There's a bit of a peak at 75hz, this is simply the sub being a bit hot in an attempt to compensate for the reduced low-end reporting of the chamber. Again a measurement anomaly
  • Small dip at 200hz and small peak at 350hz. Will attempt to fix this.
  • 1-3khz slightly lower in energy. This is a sensitive area where listening will determine the end response (not only the measurements), but might test to increase it a little bit.
  • Elevated from 5-10khz. Not really a problem as such, but looking at off-axis graphs, there's more energy at 10khz compared to on-axis, meaning we in total get an elevated level around 10khz in the estimated in-room response. Will probably try to dampen this a bit.

If we look at 30 degrees it looks overall very tidy, but we see the elevation towards 10khz mentioned above:
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Estimated in-room response + Sound power DI, we can still see the small deviations at 200+350hz, and also the elevated 10khz. So is probably possible to improve, but otherwise pretty even and nice.
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Thanks for the updates, Thorbjørn. Looking really good! I noticed earlier today that the data is up on Spinorama already. Are you planning to amend the data published there after you have made the tweaks you discussed in the last post? Also, I think that Spinorama should make it clear that the data is for the SBS Gen 2 plus 10D sub on the home page, not just a note in the data/EQ page.
 
Thanks for the updates, Thorbjørn. Looking really good! I noticed earlier today that the data is up on Spinorama already. Are you planning to amend the data published there after you have made the tweaks you discussed in the last post? Also, I think that Spinorama should make it clear that the data is for the SBS Gen 2 plus 10D sub on the home page, not just a note in the data/EQ page.

Thanks! Yes it will probably be updated there as well at some point. Next update won't be until January at the earliest.

With regards to + sub, yes, maybe. Or maybe the picture should show both the speaker and the sub. Can send an updated picture as well when I update data + get product photos in place. Name should perhaps say pre-production or something for now.
 
Quick timeline update as we are approaching the end of the year, to also share a bit of insight into the logistics when approaching production. :)

  1. Discounted preorders are open.
  2. Final tuning based primarily on listening sessions is ongoing, aiming to finalize in January, likely with a new set of measurements. Some adjustments have been done already after the Seas measurements.
  3. First batch of cabinets (also including shipping boxes) have arrived. First black demo set will be built during the holidays to be ready for the photo session.
  4. Product photos are scheduled for January 7th, and will hopefully go live on the website the following week.
  5. First batch of the new midbass drivers expected second half of January (unconfirmed)
  6. Preorder period will end and transition to regular sales and regular prices on February 1st.
  7. First orders expected to ship second half of February.
 
We recently published two customer stories on our website, both have the SBS (previous generation) paired with dual Inkognitos. :)

Håkon (started out with SBS, and this summer also purchased the Saranna)

Ragnar (started out with Manta, and this summer also purchased the SBS)
 
No need for a stereo rack! But nice with a couple of subs so the streamer ends up in eye height. :D

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I've tried the center location for subs in several rooms lately, and more often than not it works surprisingly well. This is the response in this room with two subs in the middle like in the picture above:
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No need for a stereo rack! But nice with a couple of subs so the streamer ends up in eye height. :D

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I've tried the center location for subs in several rooms lately, and more often than not it works surprisingly well. This is the response in this room with two subs in the middle like in the picture above:
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How much does she second sub help the response when used like that?
 
How much does she second sub help the response when used like that?

They're relatively similar, but one has a bit more dip at 60hz and the other quite severely at 90-100hz, so two together is still better than any one of them even when placed like this. But just one on the floor would also have been good.
 
Shipping of the new SBS Gen 2 will likely be delayed until March (original expectation was February). I need a bit more time to finalize the tuning.

Product photos will be available later today or tomorrow. Here is at least one picture. :)
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Congratulations on the new product launch! :)

Have you thought of designing cabinets with smooth, rounded edges or corners? That looks really cool and safer to move about without injuring yourself.
 
Good luck with the development and sales for your speakers after all your work and investment.

The pedant in me wondered what is the difference between using a Fibonacci sequence and being inspired by a Fibonacci sequence, although Fibonacci is undeniably a cool name.
 
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