New Collaboration with Ascilab!

[kemmler3D]

As it turns out, that Genelec is available to me to measure. I just can't handle the logistics.

I heard the full surround system with it at AES and it was the highest fidelity setup of my life! And this was at a show in with tilt up walls!
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Dang, I'd love to see the graphs on those, although it would probably just give me an unobtainable goal in life... Even if I could afford them as easily as a pizza I think my wife would rather be married to a skunk then me with those in the living room...

Anyone in amir's area own a moving company and want to get this done?

 

[BeeKay]

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That picture would better be hidden under a 'Spoiler‘ tag. The looks always scares me to death.

 

[TLEDDY]

So please don't give me advice like that and certainly not with that tone.

I avoid ad hominem like the plague - now I feel obliged.

Amirm has been an honest, forthright reviewer on this Forum since its inception. All one needs do is read his reviews
that had any remote connection to possible conflict and his transparent recognition of even unconscious bias!!

Going forward, I expect no less!

I become annoyed when attempts are made to disparage a proven honest reviewer, so, I say to those who would,
cheerfully “STFU”!

Tillman

 

[Gary_G]

I am amazed at the level of ownership you have created here ! ! !

Good Luck and Godspeed !

 

[Endibol]

Measurements aren’t biased

…assuming that they are done correctly and consistently..

 

[Esprit]

I think my wife would rather be married to a skunk then me with those in the living room...

How nice to have a wife who doesn't care about aesthetics but functionality

 

[respice finem]

I would say come on, you got used to me, so...

 

[Endibol]

How do you know the data isn’t biased? Data can be manipulated (this is not an insinuation, don’t take it that way, just making a point!). I do not understand why folks are pushing back for Amir to not review products where he has financial interest. I would think others would be requesting same given the situation. You must admit for an outsider looking in on ASR, this does not look good. Perception is reality.

Biasing can always play a role, doesn’t need to be technical or financial. Suppose the person executing the measurements hates, say the British, it could have an influence on the KEF loudspeakers being measured.

 

[Astoneroad]

Biasing can always play a role, doesn’t need to be technical or financial. Suppose the person executing the measurements hates, say the British...

Richard III, Henry VIII, Oliver Cromwell... purveyors of snake oil... all of 'em.

 

[Endibol]

Out of all the products you could have chosen to back and work with, this is probably the best one with the best fit for ASR. It's like saying there can be bias in an air quality measurement. The proof is in the proverbial pudding.

I agree, Ascilab has shown tremendous openness about their designs up to now to a level I haven’t seen from any other loudspeaker manufacturer yet. Which is great, since loudspeakers are nowadays the decisive factor in the quality of the audio chain.

 

[Labjr]

I'm curious who wants to buy ASR?

 

[Astoneroad]

@amirm , maybe you can write what all your current components are in your home stereo is in this thread?
And keep updating it shortly after you have made changes/additions.
I have to add that it is much more critical that you quickly announce collaborations like you did in this thread.
Thanks for being a very important person in bringing sanity to the hi-fi business, Amir.

Amir's posted Equipment:

• Mark Levinson amplifiers and DAC.
• Revel Salon 2 Speakers
• Berkeley Alpha USB->AES/EBU converter
• Windows 10, silent, custom PC music server
• Roon Music Management
• Tidal Music Streaming

 

[Esprit]

Does it matter?

 

[waldo2]

No it is not clear. Vast majority of papers published at AES is from companies with direct intent to make money. A lot is patented before disclosure. There is no requirement at all at AES that research papers be for good of man kind with zero monetary benefit.

AES management also works at companies that make money from audio products. Many have presented papers including Dr. Olive who was president of AES while working for Harman. Fielder who is a Fellow at Dolby and countless others. The peer review board is also made up of people who work at companies and would be approving papers that could directly compete with offerings from their own companies.

I don't know for sure how it works in other industries but I am pretty sure research funded by drug companies is accepted in peer review journals.

It’s surprising that a website with pretensions to science apparently isn’t aware of the difference between science journals and commercial operations like AES. A legitimate science journal would never allow the conflicts of interest that are a regular feature of such trade press publications. Of course even the most prestigious of academic journals sometimes fail to live up to their ideals, but when that is discovered there is a reckoning. It is second nature to scientists and medical and mental health professionals (and others) to be on the alert to even the appearance of conflicts. Here, we have an actual and obvious conflict.

For example, the NSF, like all reputable journals, has a conflict policy, https://www.nsf.gov/policies/conflict-of-interest, that makes absolutely clear than ANY financial interests are forbidden. That just makes sense. If a person has a financial interest in the outcome of research, it can’t be objective. This is really not even controversial in science and many the professions. I understand that stereophile, etc are pathetic and only a very naive person would take their reviews seriously. They are mired in conflicts and magical thinking. But if one aspires to science, one should adhere to its standards, or so it seems to me.

 

[Astoneroad]

Thanks, and I have read that post before. Is it updated?

I think that he changed a banana plug since then... in the spirit of transparency.

 

[respice finem]

And the toothpaste

 

[Laserjock]

Congratulations @amirm

Does your brother post here?

 

[DSJR]

Or, perhaps, just publish the data without analysis or comment.

Erin did this for a while, urging people to look on his YouTube account for subjective impressions, but I didn't like that. I do appreciate his basic subjective impressions as he often seems to listen to similar music to myself (Amir doesn't) and to me anyway, basic subjective feelings, explained purely as that, are utterly appropriate to kind-of add to the data presented (the Klippel testing has shown not to lie).

 

[Esprit]

It is not critical, but I think it is smart if Amir publishes it. It then "supports" ASR being a transparent forum.

You've only been here a short time (at least by the number of posts) Amir has NOTHING to prove.

 

[Matt_Holland]

I'm curious who wants to buy ASR?

It will likely just be a random assortment of affiliate marketing companies who look for sites with high traffic and LOTS of original and well written content.

As Amir says, you could monetise the site and instantly earn $$$. Adverts and affiliate links, etc. The site is probably worth well over $100k I’d say because there is just so much content and I would say is already ranking extremely well on Google.