New Alcons studio monitors… So what?

[Stephan]

You guys are getting worked up about me not loving the amp connectors which do absolutely suck, but I’m not convinced that the entire system at whatever cost it is (which is unstated) is actually worth the price.

I would think that being skeptical of a manufacturer’s hype would be met with more understanding in this forum.

If you want to believe what they’re dishing out like it’s fact, that says a lot more about you than it does me.

Don't you think it's strange someone in a forum is ranting about a speaker system he has not heard or measured?

In contrast, some of us have heard, measured and owned some of their systems.
STMPD have a room with their C-series speakers and it's Dolby Atmos Premier certified. It's really not that hard to get a demo at several locations.

So wouldn't it be a good idea to actually listen to the system before judging them? And if you are or work close with an integrator, you can even get Klippel measurements.
But right now, this does indeed seem like trolling.

 

[Audio Science Pal]

They are being released in a week. Not a lot of info.

Introducing: The M-Series Reference Monitor Systems - Alcons Audio

After more than three years of intensive research, development, and real-world evaluation, Alcons Audio proudly announces the official launch of the M-series Reference Monitor Systems — the company’s long-awaited entry into the studio and critical-listening market. Developed from the ground up...

www.alconsaudio.com

It would be fun listening to those speakers.

 

[LuckyNat]

If something was invented that’s superior, they’d be used in studios already.

Hmm .. that shows a lack of understanding of both studios and the markets studio equipment manufacturers sell to.

Here is an example of a professional engineer criticising the use of XLRs / jacks on expensive studio equipment these days and I tend to agree with him, it's about their customers not what is "superior" :

The lack of EDAC or D-Sub just looks like another indication that a manufacturer recognises the lack of fully professional buyers.
They will know who is buying their gear and they will know that most of their buyers do not understand or care for full professional install.
At least this is a fairly compact desk. I can see it getting a headache if you wanted to expand by a large amount in the future.

The Alcons monitors appear to be aimed at professional installations, soffited installations where, for example, cabling is installed through the cable run pipes set in the concrete slab when the studio was built. That means you are either using cable already installed, or running bare cable through those pipes. Euroblock / Phoenix connectors have many advantages in those scenarios.

One very important advantage is the fact the blocks come in many different lengths, meaning you can ensure the wires are connected to the correct terminals by using just one block that can only be inserted one way. NL4s would require several sockets which could easily be plugged in incorrectly at some point ln the future, blowing a driver.

There are other advantages too .. mainly arrising from other connector types' needing to survive thousands of reconnections, unneceasary in a permenant install.

I feel like you are trying to rationalise an emotion towards the visual impression the system gives off.. an impression that tells you they are not catering for your personal needs. Well ... that is very likely correct ! They can market to whomever they want.

 

[LuckyNat]

Also, that crap PA amps meant for powering 50v PA systems in malls have the same interface connectors is not what I call a ringing endorsement.

This is such a weird thing to say .. It is shown in the review section time and again, that crap equipment uses XLRs .. Crap PA amps use NL4s .. ?

I can wire an NL4 on to a piezo buzzer if i want, doesn't make it a good transducer. lol

If you don't like the look of them and want to rationalise that disgust .. that's fine. But it's best to recognise within your body and mind, the origin of it .. rather than believing your own subsequent thoughts.

 

[Matt_Holland]

You guys are getting worked up about me not loving the amp connectors which do absolutely suck, but I’m not convinced that the entire system at whatever cost it is (which is unstated) is actually worth the price.

I would think that being skeptical of a manufacturer’s hype would be met with more understanding in this forum.

If you want to believe what they’re dishing out like it’s fact, that says a lot more about you than it does me.

No one has said they believe what Alcons are saying. Some here have experienced their products and commented already. You can read more comments in this there here

Your main gripe seems to be about the amp connections. Have you looked at their newer models, Sentinel 3 and 10? If not please do and then share your thoughts.

Alcons is primarily and B2B brand and what you perceive as the value proposition is likely not relevant if you are discussing it in the context as a consumer.

Based on the M series being phase corrected and incredibly linear when used with Sentinel amps, it is reasonable to assume there is a high level of performance on offer but as usual full judgement will be reserved until sufficient data exists particularly THD and IMD.

 

[LuckyNat]

I know objective measurements rule here , but a valid "data point" to be given as little or as much as one wishes are some first hand experiences from the last couple of years at an event called Gearfest in London (a relatively small pro / home studio gear event). Here's one for example: