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Neumann KH150

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The Sound & Recording measurements graphs are now freely online available, as expected no surprises:

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Source: https://www.soundandrecording.de/equipment/neumann-kh-150-2-wege-nearfield-monitor-im-test/

Really great set of measurements at the highest level, if I would be forced to nitpick I would only mention the kink of the sound power at 600 Hz which is though almost impossible to avoid at that size.
Is it a class D amp or not?
 

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Is it a class D amp or not?
You spend so much time here on these monitors, haven't looked at the manufacturer website yet? :)

ENERGY EFFICIENT​

Neumann engineers took great care to develop a patent pending amplifier technology which combines superior audio performance with the energy efficiency of Class D. Although the KH 150’s amplifiers deliver up to 145 W to the 6.5” woofer and 100 W to the 1” tweeter, they only consume 17 W at idle. Auto-standby reduces power consumption to 0.3 W when the KH 150 has not been used for a while, but can be deactivated.

Source: https://en-de.neumann.com/kh-150
 
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You spend so much time on the here about these monitors, haven't looked at the manufacturer website yet? :)

ENERGY EFFICIENT​

Neumann engineers took great care to develop a patent pending amplifier technology which combines superior audio performance with the energy efficiency of Class D. Although the KH 150’s amplifiers deliver up to 145 W to the 6.5” woofer and 100 W to the 1” tweeter, they only consume 17 W at idle. Auto-standby reduces power consumption to 0.3 W when the KH 150 has not been used for a while, but can be deactivated.

Source: https://en-de.neumann.com/kh-150
I'm genuinely curious what they did here. It sounds like it's related to BASH or Class H performance.
 

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You spend so much time here on these monitors, haven't looked at the manufacturer website yet? :)

ENERGY EFFICIENT​

Neumann engineers took great care to develop a patent pending amplifier technology which combines superior audio performance with the energy efficiency of Class D. Although the KH 150’s amplifiers deliver up to 145 W to the 6.5” woofer and 100 W to the 1” tweeter, they only consume 17 W at idle. Auto-standby reduces power consumption to 0.3 W when the KH 150 has not been used for a while, but can be deactivated.

Source: https://en-de.neumann.com/kh-150
I actually read that part and still didn't understand if it's class D or not
Probably a language barrier ;)
 

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17 Watts idle is not that great.. Each of my 3 JBL LSR308, idling consume 3.8 watts. measured. Each of the 2 LSR305, 3.2 watts. Those 5 speakers at idle consume about the same as just One, single KH150.. If you use 3x KH-150 in a LCR configuration, you're pulling , at idle , a not so-green, 51 watts... Neumann missed an opportunity there ...

Peace.
 

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17 Watts idle is not that great.. Each of my 3 JBL LSR308, idling consume 3.8 watts. measured. Each of the 2 LSR305, 3.2 watts. Those 5 speakers at idle consume about the same as just One, single KH150.. If you use 3x KH-150 in a LCR configuration, you're pulling , at idle , a not so-green, 51 watts... Neumann missed an opportunity there ...

Peace.

DSP is much more powerful in the Neumann speakers. I also assume that whatever this "new" amplifier tech does, part of it helps to avoid/reduce audible hiss often plaguing many active class D studio monitor designs. *Besides, the auto stand-by feature, if consistent and reliable should be practically "green" enough.
 

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I actually read that part and still didn't understand if it's class D or not
Probably a language barrier ;)
It clearly writes it is a new implementation which is patent pending and not typical class D "combines superior audio performance with the energy efficiency of Class D". The question is what exactly do you want to know with that question, for example worries for hiss, power consumption or reliability?
 

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It clearly writes it is a new implementation which is patent pending and not typical class D "combines superior audio performance with the energy efficiency of Class D". The question is what exactly do you want to know with that question, for example worries for hiss, power consumption or reliability?
Reliability mostly
It's mainly why I avoided the Focal Solo6
 

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Reliability mostly
It's mainly why I avoided the Focal Solo6
You should learn not to judge by categories like "Class D" as in the end the quality of the implementation engineering counts. By the way your favorited Genelecs also use Class D, no worries there? ;)
 
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