Neumann KH120 II Monitor Review

[Ricardojoa]

Has anyone gotten these neumann or their higher model and not like them because they were too dry and not musical?
These speakers are incredibly neutral base on measurement but i dont know what to expect in a home environment

 

[Soria Moria]

Has anyone gotten these neumann or their higher model and not like them because they were too dry and not musical?
These speakers are incredibly neutral base on measurement but i dont know what to expect in a home environment

You can always EQ them to a different target using the MA-1 should you not be happy with the default result.

 

[Toni Mas]

Has anyone gotten these neumann or their higher model and not like them because they were too dry and not musical?
These speakers are incredibly neutral base on measurement but i dont know what to expect in a home environment

There are plenty of switches at the back to adjust the tonal balance

 

[teashea]

Has anyone gotten these neumann or their higher model and not like them because they were too dry and not musical?
These speakers are incredibly neutral base on measurement but i dont know what to expect in a home environment

Musicality is not the function of a studio monitor. Musicality is the job of the music. The job of a monitor is to present the music without alteration, color, musicality or anything else. Monitors should have flat frequency response and low distortion.

 

[teashea]

There are plenty of switches at the back to adjust the tonal balance

Has anyone gotten these neumann or their higher model and not like them because they were too dry and not musical?
These speakers are incredibly neutral base on measurement but i dont know what to expect in a home environment

If you are looking for pleasure listening speakers that color and modify the music, Neumann monitors are not for you.

 

[Toni Mas]

If you are looking for pleasure listening speakers that color and modify the music, Neumann monitors are not for you.

So would you ignore the presence of these switches that can alter the tonal balance of your set Up and avoid making use of them though they might help you get a more satisfying experience?

 

[markstein]

I have the old KH120 (nearfield desk setup) and the KH310 (>3m listening distance in my living room) and I can tell you that both can make much fun when properly set up (incl. some EQ).

 

[solawind]

If you are looking for pleasure listening speakers that color and modify the music, Neumann monitors are not for you.

why? i am listening my 120 ii for pleasure and they are incredible after room correction, most natural sound i have ever heard. And you always can add any "coloration" you want with integrated EQ (but i prefer maximum transparency and not alerting the source). Basically free DSP box inside each speaker with 10 peq bands should be more than enough for that

 

[teashea]

So would you ignore the presence of these switches that can alter the tonal balance of your set Up and avoid making use of them though they might help you get a more satisfying experience?

I have seven pairs of Neumann monitors in my studio, including three pairs of KH120 II's. The switches have very limited effect. They are not intended to significantly modify the tonal balance. They are very fine adjustments to assist in tailoring the monitors for fine tuning room acoustics.

 

[teashea]

why? i am listening my 120 ii for pleasure and they are incredible after room correction, most natural sound i have ever heard. And you always can add any "coloration" you want with integrated EQ (but i prefer maximum transparency and not alerting the source). Basically free DSP box inside each speaker with 10 peq bands should be more than enough for that

What is the listening distance?

 

[PristineSound]

Has anyone gotten these neumann or their higher model and not like them because they were too dry and not musical?
These speakers are incredibly neutral base on measurement but i dont know what to expect in a home environment

What do you mean by "musical"?

 

[Toni Mas]

I have seven pairs of Neumann monitors in my studio, including three pairs of KH120 II's. The switches have very limited effect. They are not intended to significantly modify the tonal balance. They are very fine adjustments to assist in tailoring the monitors for fine tuning room acoustics.

Yes sure but if you need them but don't use them because you suspect they might colour the sound, you might loose something useful. I even heard people recommending to stay away because these eq switches produce nasty phase shifts...

 

[kyuu]

Has anyone gotten these neumann or their higher model and not like them because they were too dry and not musical?

"Musical" is one of those subjective audiophile terms that is completely meaningless. What precisely is the issue?

 

[Toni Mas]

"Musical" is one of those subjective audiophile terms that is completely meaningless. What precisely is the issue?

Considering the predicted in room response resulting from the measurements made by Amir, i think we can expect a tonal balance that most people would consider "musical" enough...

 

[Toni Mas]

 

[Joachim Herbert]

Has anyone gotten these neumann or their higher model and not like them because they were too dry and not musical?
These speakers are incredibly neutral base on measurement but i dont know what to expect in a home environment

Expect excellence in every respect.

 

[teashea]

"Musical" is one of those subjective audiophile terms that is completely meaningless. What precisely is the issue?

well stated.....

 

[solawind]

What is the listening distance?

2.5m in small room. They have more loudness than i need i do not even set loudness slider to the max position in the MA1 software.

 

[solawind]

Expect excellence in every respect.

its true, if the 120ii have enough loudness for your listening distance there is like 0 sense in looking at anything else after buying them. You won’t get anything “sonically better”. And functionality wise they are excellent, you are getting an amp, dsp box, calibration software, even a dac in one package. And all of those are top notch

 

[jwalkmusic]

Hey guys,

I'm in the process of upgrading my monitors. Up until now I've had an entry level set of ProSonus Eris E44s with a Temblor T8 sub.

My room is 10' wide x 12' long with 10ft ceilings. Never treated before but will be getting bass traps and panels for the room.

I produce electronic music, mainly Melodic Techno and Deep progressive. I want something better for mixing but also do quite a bit of general use at my computer from listening to music and some gaming.

I was looking at the Adam A8H but I think that may be too much for space and I stumbled across the KH120 II.

What do you guys think about these for my use? Also sub needed or not given the styles I"m producing. I've become accustomed to a sub with my current setup. I can probably slide 2k for the monitors past the wife pretty easy, 4k may take a little more convincing lol. Also I'd get the mic package.