Pearljam5000
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Not sure Thomann has the same prices
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Those are somewhat irrelevant considerations. Ports don't have problems beyond leaking midrange if poorly damped or producing noise if pushed to produce high output, again if poorly designed (specifically about the shape size and length of the port).
The "TLs aren't resonators" comment doesn't make sense. What else happens in a speaker? http://www.t-linespeakers.org/design/MJK-for-dummies/index.html
With both ports and TLs you are effectively seeking to extend bass response. And we know that bass is room dominated and needs to be, at a minimum, EQed. So apart from looking at relative things like output capability vs. distortion and extension (where a sub is suggested anyway), the low end of a speaker is not a good place to start.
The biggest immediately audible and useful comparisons for speakers will be in MF/HF. Keeping the room in mind, and being conservative, that means >500-1kHz if we want to be fair and not bias one speaker or the other due to the problems caused by SBIR.
The PMC has an offset tweeter, which will effectively narrow the optimum listening position and unbalance off axis response. Beyond that, the single good example of measurements we have for one of their products, which has a centered tweeter, performed very poorly:
- https://www.spinorama.org/speakers/PMC Twenty 21/ASR/index_asr.html
- https://www.audiosciencereview.com/...pmc-twenty-21-bookshelf-speaker-review.14442/
Definitely.
I apologize I don't have time to say more. I think you're on the right path.Don't mean to take this off topic but your comment on the offset tweeter, I have recently done some sort of ATC style thee ways with offset tweeter. I do feel like the center image is very narrow. Things sound kind of nebulous. I guess I just kinda took visual stock in troels graveson and ATC's driver placement when I should've done a bit more research. I was under impression this would help with edge diffraction. Do you have any info on driver placement on baffles in regards to imaging?
I've very much considered scrapping the boxes and building a new speaker utilizing the woofer and mid but using a waveguided tweeter.
What about their DSP features, versatility, engineering quality, driver stability, support?love RME products but I think is an overkill (and really expensive) for just using digital output
If you're purely going to listen, and don't have any need for microphone/instrument capabilities, then yes, just buy the cheapest thing that has a digital output. In the event that you're using them with a desktop computer, your motherboard may already have an optical digital output, in which case you can get an adapter for cheaper than an audio interface.By the way since I am going to get a KH150 + KH750DSP I have some "related" questions.
- About the digital output: What do you recommend for best quality into output into these speakers from the computer:
I am between: Topping D10, Matrix S-SPDIF3, Focusrite Scarlett 8i6, Clarett plus 4pre, Ifi Zen Stream, or even a WiiM Pro Receptor. Is there any other option? I love RME products but I think is an overkill (and really expensive) for just using digital output. Also between all those options should I get the cheaper one, or it could be any difference in sound quality besides I will use digital output and most of the work will be done by DAC Used in the Neumanns?
- About the cables: Any good RCA coaxial cable that should use or recommend?
- Also I am looking for floor stands since they are a bit big, I was Looking into Kanto Stands (SP26L, SX22), there are any other good looking/compatible floor stands for the KH150?
- Should I get a Isoacoustics isolation for the sub for the floor? Probably yes but just asking if worth it.
- And last one if anyone know how long are the power cables included in the neumann to know If I need to look for another ones (more length/larger), just to be prepared in case the length is not enough for where I have my power plug.
Thanks all and sorry for lot of questions.
I would not be happy without a "hardware" digital level control. But I also don't have a reasonable priced solution for that, sorry.By the way since I am going to get a KH150 + KH750DSP I have some "related" questions.
- About the digital output: What do you recommend for best quality into output into these speakers from the computer:
I am between: Topping D10, Matrix S-SPDIF3, Focusrite Scarlett 8i6, Clarett plus 4pre, Ifi Zen Stream, or even a WiiM Pro Receptor. Is there any other option? I love RME products but I think is an overkill (and really expensive) for just using digital output. Also between all those options should I get the cheaper one, or it could be any difference in sound quality besides I will use digital output and most of the work will be done by DAC Used in the Neumanns?
- About the cables: Any good RCA coaxial cable that should use or recommend?
- Also I am looking for floor stands since they are a bit big, I was Looking into Kanto Stands (SP26L, SX22), there are any other good looking/compatible floor stands for the KH150?
- Should I get a Isoacoustics isolation for the sub for the floor? Probably yes but just asking if worth it.
- And last one if anyone know how long are the power cables included in the neumann to know If I need to look for another ones (more length/larger), just to be prepared in case the length is not enough for where I have my power plug.
Thanks all and sorry for lot of questions.
Just comparison between these two speakers:How is your subjective listening impression between these 2? They are pretty different concepts, what's your opinion?
Having in mind that the pair of KH150 is aprox 3000 EUR (a bit less) I would say that the pair of the new KH310 will be 4500-5000 probablyAs I'm a big fan of midrange domes I'm also looking forward to that! But it's probably not comming cheap.
Thanks for the answer!KH750 is not even 40cm high - how should this be ear level?
You fall short of the biggest advantage of a subwoofer system - positioning the woofer on a good spot in the room to get an even frequency response with less resonances.
So no - I would not do that.
(Sylomer decouples better as these mini stands btw.)
I know tweeter is not at that height
38 + 34 = 72 cm
How about hiss?Just comparison between these two speakers:
A17: slim, clear, compact, focused, slightly bright.
KH150: powerful, detailed, well-controled, well-layered soundstage, more bass(with obviously better general bass performance)
I prefer KH150 a bit.
Hiss from KH150 is very very low. If you put your ear to the tweeter, you can barely hear it.How about hiss?