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The KH310 is 12 years old
Where's the new model Neumann?
Where's the new model Neumann?
The KH310 is 12 years old
Where's the new model Neumann?![]()
I use my KH 310's at 1.2 meters. It is fine.I don't necessarily disagree but would Neumann state 'recommended listening distance' as 1 metre to 2.5 metres (feasible from 0.75) if it wasn't optimal? Which is the same as they state for the KH150 by the way.
KH 310 A - Three Way Nearfield Monitor
High-resolution tri-amplified near-field monitor, optimized for midrange and a dry bass sound.www.neumann.com
You should probably direct that question to the upper echelons of Sennheiser and, while you are at it, request they allocate a bigger share of their profits to more convincing customer service, as well as better quality control of their products. That's just my opinion however..Where's the new model Neumann?![]()
The only models they have that are not new are the KH420 and KH310. I expect a new KH310 II next.I imagine that at some point their older models will be replaced with newer equivalents that use DSP and class D amplifiers.
"That scoop is always being promised, but never delivered"I use the KH150 in a ,farfield, listening / homecinema setup and even they are with Sub Support more than enough imo. I just say : ~106 dB Peak. When this is not enough i dont know. Just imagine what the KH310 or 420 would capable of with Sub Support.
I'm a Neumann Fan & owner since many many years. Had the 310, 120 and now 80 & 150. But my tip is : invest in Room treatment & subwoofer concept (double bass array or multi bass) + minidsp. The new 310 mk2 will be neumann level perfection, but wouldnt be ,magical, or ,next level,. And imo you get the same results with professional dsp setup with miniDSP, ConeQ, AcourateCV or similiar softwares - or just book professional Service who set everything up manual.
for me : Manual Setup > Automation
you pay here around 500€ for Main + Subwoofer(s) / Single / Double Bass Array Setup
And i'm pretty sure the new KH310 would be close to 4k or even more. The 150 costs 2.8k, and with a new model the price would be setup very high
I don't think so, mid and high domes on the 310 are closer together than tweeter and woofer of the 150, and I think location information lies mainly in this frequency range.Good for KH150 but IMO a little too short for KH310 to get an optimal imaging. This could (IMHO) explains your impressions considering you get a better pinpoint imaging with the 150 ?
Also, in three-way designs driver integration is less of an issue since the crossovers do not generally lie in the most sensitive frequency region as with two-ways.I don't think so, mid and high domes on the 310 are closer together than tweeter and woofer of the 150, and I think location information lies mainly in this frequency range.
The KH310 requires only a signal. It is an active monitor.The 310's biggest problem (aside from being a bit of a power hog) may be a direct result of its shape and size - the horizontal dispersion irregularity in the low midrange. This is not going to be fixable without either making the speaker bigger so the midrange can get a larger waveguide, or some kind of even more radical shift like going for a side-mounted woofer or a pair thereof. Imagine they went with a trapezoidal footprint and twin KH120 woofers. It would definitely be about time for them to try something cardioid as well.
And at idle?Maximum is 300 watts at full power.
the 310 is much higher at idle than the 150. The 150 idles (in on mode) around 15 watts. The 310 is at 24. Still not a ton, but a solid 60% more than the 150. The KH420 is where the power draw is higher - 60w at idle. But it also has hugely more amp on tap than the 150 or 310.If you are talking about its power consumption, you are also wrong. Maximum is 300 watts at full power. The KH 150 is 320 watts at full power. Both are modest.
The WG on the midrange is really shallow, but there is no woofer:mid error (beyond the "one toothed comb" which is a result of the arrangement and the crossover frequency, not the depth of the WG itself. Note in the vertical that the flare isn't present.The 310's biggest problem (aside from being a bit of a power hog) may be a direct result of its shape and size - the horizontal dispersion irregularity in the low midrange. This is not going to be fixable without either making the speaker bigger so the midrange can get a larger waveguide, or some kind of even more radical shift like going for a side-mounted woofer or a pair thereof. Imagine they went with a trapezoidal footprint and twin KH120 woofers. It would definitely be about time for them to try something cardioid as well.
The current KH 420 already has it. Not so feasible for smaller enclosures such as the KH 310.One thing that might be interesting to see, is a rotatable tweeter and mid "plate" on both models
24And at idle?
It is not really a cinema speaker.Ok so, is KH 150 good for home cinema, used as FL, FR, Back R and Back L? Distance from the FR/FL arround 2.6 metres? IF YES, what Center channel to match with them ?