Needed Subwoofer for AsciLab C6B

[Chrispy]

I’m not a technical expert, and I don't want to pretend to be one just to fit in here. To me, arguing over the 'right' words feels a bit silly when the goal is just to enjoy the music.
I chose the Arendal because it measures well, has a great warranty, and fits my life. I'd rather focus on the result than the labels.

Don't need to be a technical expert, just don't get too caught up in others' subjective descriptions/experiences. With a sub your room has a great influence, too. Arendal should do fine.

 

[IngMishael]

I’m not a technical expert, and I don't want to pretend to be one just to fit in here. To me, arguing over the 'right' words feels a bit silly when the goal is just to enjoy the music.
I chose the Arendal because it measures well, has a great warranty, and fits my life. I'd rather focus on the result than the labels.

That is a great mindset. not all of us can become audio experts, so yeah I understand your approach. you don't need to follow strictly a set standard but yes common sense learnings in this space which I see you're doing is all you need

 

[Jiraya369]

I’m not a technical expert, and I don't want to pretend to be one just to fit in here. To me, arguing over the 'right' words feels a bit silly when the goal is just to enjoy the music.
I chose the Arendal because it measures well, has a great warranty, and fits my life. I'd rather focus on the result than the labels.

just be wary of neighbours you might end up upsetting

 

[BetweenThePeaks]

just be wary of neighbours you might end up upsetting

I’m basically having a musical spiritual awakening over here.I just hope the neighbors are okay with being part of the congregation!

 

[delta76]

I’m not a technical expert, and I don't want to pretend to be one just to fit in here. To me, arguing over the 'right' words feels a bit silly when the goal is just to enjoy the music.
I chose the Arendal because it measures well, has a great warranty, and fits my life. I'd rather focus on the result than the labels.

most of us on this forum are not technical experts. yes we have some but those are rare. some are more knowledgeable than other but you don't have pretend to be anything to fit it.
Anyone is welcome as long as you have an open mind to scientific facts and proofs (and it seems you do)

 

[BetweenThePeaks]

most of us on this forum are not technical experts. yes we have some but those are rare. some are more knowledgeable than other but you don't have pretend to be anything to fit it.
Anyone is welcome as long as you have an open mind to scientific facts and proofs (and it seems you do)

Thanks, I appreciate that. I definitely prefer looking at the facts and measurements before I buy anything. To me, if the science shows that a device is well made and that performs well, then it’s a choice I can trust. I’d rather rely on proof than just a guess.

 

[Mort]

Look, I’m new to this, so I’m not going to pretend I know all the technical jargon or audiophile terms. I’m just a guy who wants a high quality system. To me, that means a sound that is clear and realistic.I want to be able to hear everything that was actually recorded in the studio, without it sounding muddy or blurry. I’m just looking for a setup that sounds real and makes me enjoy the music.

You are fine. ASR members trigger at descriptive words because they are the subjectivist's preferred argument. We tend to prefer measurement data to colorful adjectives.

 

[BetweenThePeaks]

You are fine. ASR members trigger at descriptive words because they are the subjectivist's preferred argument. We tend to prefer measurement data to colorful adjectives.

I really value the technical knowledge here.
I really do.

I chose the Audiophonics AP300-S250NC over the Yamaha A-S801( my final choice before joining ASR forum) specifically because the measurements were better.

It was the same with my speakers.
I could have easily bought the KEF Q Concerto (famous) on Amazon.it and had them the next day, but I chose the AsciLab C6B (new on the scene)instead. They cost more and I have to wait for weeks for them to ship, but I went with them because the data showed they were the better performer.

I trust the science and the judgment on this forum, and that's why I'm here.

 

[delta76]

I really value the technical knowledge here.
I really do.

I chose the Audiophonics AP300-S250NC over the Yamaha A-S801( my final choice before joining ASR forum) specifically because the measurements were better.

It was the same with my speakers.
I could have easily bought the KEF Q Concerto (famous) on Amazon.it and had them the next day, but I chose the AsciLab C6B (new on the scene)instead. They cost more and I have to wait for weeks for them to ship, but I went with them because the data showed they were the better performer.

I trust the science and the judgment on this forum, and that's why I'm here.

both are fine actually. stay for a while and you will learn that measurements are important but only to some point. after that, other things take over, including but not limited to, power, aesthetics, price, build quality, long term support.
Q Concerto and C6B are also very comparable performers and not necessary one is clearly better than other.

But sure when you are uncertain/do not care about other things, measurements should be your priority.

 

[The French]

Hi,
Ciao,

I've got the almost same question.
Wiim Amp Ultra, Ascilab C6B.
I'm looking for the right sub, a close one like you.

Only difference with you is the size of the room : 11m2, and it changes a lot of things.

In your case, Arendal or SVS (sb), if you can source any of those in Italy,
I'm pretty sure you won't be dissapointed with any of these brands.

In my case, I need a sub for the 35/50hz range.
I personnally don't need nor like when a sub goes too low.
And I need a tiny one, closed, and not expensive.
An hard combo in Europ

 

[Mort]

And I need a tiny one, closed, and not expensive.

SVS 3000 micro V1 is on sale in the US for $700. Most/many subs will go below 35hz in room but the micro shouldn't.

 

[aschen]

I bought a pair of 1961 1s a while ago. They work very well. I bought them over svs because they are much prettier imho. I am shallow I suppose but they look great and have very competitive performance according to the data posted here. White matches my KH150s well also.

SVS phone app seems pretty useful though if you don't have other dsp available.

 

[tineared]

I’m basically having a musical spiritual awakening over here.I just hope the neighbors are okay with being part of the congregation!

Good plan.
Make sure you have some "party favors" available if they should happen to knock on your door.
It's all about spreading the love and living in harmony...

 

[3125b]

And I need a tiny one, closed, and not expensive.
An hard combo in Europ

It certainly can be. First: What do you mean by "not expensive"?

If you just want some cheap subwoofer with moderate output and extension then that's not difficult. Your Wiim has room correction, that should be fine.
Looking at cheap subs, sealed is probably better if you don't need a lot of output, it's obviously less efficient, but the high-tuned ports of cheap subs can cause issues with audible resonances and messy group delay.

The Q Acoustics 3060S seems like an interesting option if it needs to be a bit more elegant. It's not particularly beefy, but the slim shape makes it easy to fit in almost any setup and it comes in different colors.
For 160€ the Wavemaster Fusion might be one of the best options, it has passive radiators and still seems reasonable overall for a small room.
There are plenty of options, but it's a bit of a question what exactly you value most, you won't get everything at once on a budget.

My reference would be my Dynaudio 9S, which is significantly more powerful than those mentioned above, but I would say that's still sufficient in my 25m² room. Obviously it doesn't keep up with my Monolith 12" THX Ultra, but the truth is that you just don't need 113dBSPL @25Hz in an apartment, at least not more than once before your neighbours kick you out

 

[EERecordist]

I'm a fan of servo speakers from the original Philips demo. It can minimize distortion in subwoofers. ASR reviewed a US brand Rythmik.

There may be other servo subs on the market or used in Europe .

Velodyne makes them and is now headquartered in Germany. You would need to scan the prices to see what is in your budget, read reviews, and hopefully demo one.

You could also look at sealed professional recording studio subwoofers like Genelec, Dynaudio, Neumann, Focal, and Kali, sure there are more, I don't know the European market. The Ascilab speakers don't play super loud, so you don't need a super woofer.

The Ascilab speakers are great so it would be ideal to have a comparable sub.

 

[Mort]

servo speakers

I like and own Rythmik subs but I always thought that was a marketing gimmick.

Mostly I love that they have more modest cabinet sizes, look unobtrusive for a sub, and no phone app is required.

 

[SanojS]

I’m a bit wary of the used market. Between the lack of warranty and the risk of dishonest sellers, I'd rather buy new and have that security, even if it costs more.

There are plenty of used hifi markets where you can buy stuff. I use one in my country where people are registered users with official SSN so it is well trusted. You can find people who let you demo before buying. Probably people in here from the same country as you can suggest trusted audiophile markets.

 

[BetweenThePeaks]

There are plenty of used hifi markets where you can buy stuff. I use one in my country where people are registered users with official SSN so it is well trusted. You can find people who let you demo before buying. Probably people in here from the same country as you can suggest trusted audiophile markets.

Here is my reasoning:

Buying used is a gamble. If a used sub has hidden damage or fails after two months, I’ve just thrown away ~ €500. There’s no warranty and no way to know if the previous owner abused it.

Buying new gives me peace of mind. I know exactly what I’m getting, and I have a 5 to 10 year warranty. I’d rather pay more for that security and peace of mind.

 

[BetweenThePeaks]

I was looking at the Arendal 1961 1S as a match for my AsciLabs on their official site, but it looks that delivery estimate for the EU is currently showing May 2026.

 

[staticV3]

I was looking at the Arendal 1961 1S as a match for my AsciLabs on their official site, but it looks that delivery estimate for the EU is currently showing May 2026.

It's not like you need it before you can listen to music, so personally, I'd order now and listen to the C6Bs alone for three months.