This thread is a bit dated, but you said no to Denon which I agree. They sound horrible. In picking between NAD, Rotel, and ARCAM, I picked the NAD T778 and the sound was amazing but it didn't last long. Tons of articles on groups of how many problems and how unreliable the NAD T778 is. Mine started popping and then went into protection mode. After rebooting all the time it finally wouldn't work anymore. The solution for the fix is to replace the surround L and surround R Hypex amp modules. There's a separate problem with DC leaking into the coupling caps. NAD customer service was non-existent. Price to repair was insane. Long story short I just ordered an ARCAM AVR21. I've never heard two channel audio sound, with my external amp added, that sounded as good as the NAD. I couldn't see buying a Rotel as their one model is ancient technology. That left me with ARCAM. I know the screen won't be as nice and I'll miss that. I'm not sure if I'll be able to get the same sound quality or even better if it exists. And yes, every brand has a bad unit here or there but I'm expecting the ARCAM to be reliable as the NAD's rep is absolutely awful for this model. Someone told me NAD= Not Always Dependable and I ignored that and that was a mistake.