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NAD 2200 Vintage Amplifier Review
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I won't be close enough to know (unless it's in that bright blue LED mode that seems to be everywhere. If it is stuck in that mode, I'll clip the LED's wires and shine my flash light at it when I want to see the meters.
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80S review of the amp
What do you guys think about the Kenwood M1 vs the Nad 2200 ?
the M1 came in 1983 and it was around $330 vs the 1985 $440 Nad
Which one is better ?
The Nad has more power that for sure
Pro review of the Kenwood
What do you guys think about the Kenwood M1 vs the Nad 2200 ?
the M1 came in 1983 and it was around $330 vs the 1985 $440 Nad
Which one is better ?
The Nad has more power that for sure
Pro review of the Kenwood
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Thank you for this, as I am sure that there are many that have not seen this information: Is that so that we can compare AMIRM's review of my NAD 2200 on page one of this thread with the review done back then by Julian Hirsch, Hirsch Houck Laboratories for HiFi Stereo Review? (I like the one panel cartoon at the end of it, by the way).
My local dealer (Read Brothers Stereo, on King Street in Charleston, South Carolina), Tommy Read, lent me one back when they were a new item to try out at home for a week, which caused me to buy 3 over a short period of time.
The one that Amirm tested is one of those 3 (which I still own) & use in my Tri-Amped system.
I will be sending the 3 of them (to join the other three of my 2200's that are already there), as well as my 2 APT/Holman Pre/Amps to Peter at QuirkAudio (https://quirkaudio.com/) this year for refurbishments & upgrades.
Something that I typically do every 5 to 10 years.
Thanks for sharing!
Another interesting (I think, anyway) piece of NAD 2200 information:
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The 2200s typically clip around 160Wpc at 8R continuous in all the units I have seen.
And there were several reviews at the time where 150-160Wpc 8R continuous was measured. Amir's 229W @8R is NOT continuous.
That said, I'd pick the NAD 2200 any day of the week over the Basic M1. Build quality of the M1 is poor for the time- Kenwood was really seriously cost-cutting. The NAD was the opposite- they were really trying to establish their brand as a serious player at the time. Get an original unmolested one and then have an expert go through it from end to end. You will spend probably as much again as it cost on a proper rebuild/restoration.
And there were several reviews at the time where 150-160Wpc 8R continuous was measured. Amir's 229W @8R is NOT continuous.
That said, I'd pick the NAD 2200 any day of the week over the Basic M1. Build quality of the M1 is poor for the time- Kenwood was really seriously cost-cutting. The NAD was the opposite- they were really trying to establish their brand as a serious player at the time. Get an original unmolested one and then have an expert go through it from end to end. You will spend probably as much again as it cost on a proper rebuild/restoration.
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Who has the better specs between the 2 ?
I have a Nad 2700 in the shop for a full restoration, but I was very impressed with the M1
restorer-john
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The 2200.
If someone really wanted Kenwood from that era, the Basic M2 is the one to get. 220wpc and a ton of headroom, much better looking etc.
Scanned from one of my brochures.
Nice. What vintage would this gear be?
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Since we are commenting in Nad audio
I got lucky the other day and was able to get 2 nad preamps, the 1300 and the 114,
1300 was $20 and the 114 was $60 from the same owner
after some research both original price was $399
Nad 114 came around 1999
Nad 1300 1990 ?
I am going to keep one, the other is going to my tech as present
Which one is the best ?
Nad 114
Nad 1300
I got lucky the other day and was able to get 2 nad preamps, the 1300 and the 114,
1300 was $20 and the 114 was $60 from the same owner
after some research both original price was $399
Nad 114 came around 1999
Nad 1300 1990 ?
I am going to keep one, the other is going to my tech as present
Which one is the best ?
Nad 114
Nad 1300
Ask your tech which one he thinks is better & why? Then maybe base your decision on that?Since we are commenting in Nad audio
I got lucky the other day and was able to get 2 nad preamps, the 1300 and the 114,
1300 was $20 and the 114 was $60 from the same owner
after some research both original price was $399
Nad 114 came around 1999
Nad 1300 1990 ?
I am going to keep one, the other is going to my tech as present
Which one is the best ?
Nad 114
Nad 1300
I had a 1300, still regret selling it even though I've no single ended gear left. If all the pots and switches are clean it is by far the better pre, so many options for signal routing and the tone controls are rather brilliant. I still have the manual, schematics and service manual if you need it. I preferred it over my Apt/Holman, PS Audio 6.2 or Kenwood C2 I had during the same era though that was purely subjective back in those days.
@DWPress (you know a lot of what I own): Maybe back in the day, I might, possibly, have been able to tell the difference between a new Apt/Holman & a 1300. And probably not. Today, it is the same, if they have both been properly teched, I'll still call it a maybe. 1 or the other may measure better in some parameter or another but I do not think (to my ears at least) that they would be audibly different to me. And there is a lot of gear that is audibly inferior to my ears, even these days.
Just the versatility of the 1300, feature wise it has a lot going on. The PS Audio was probably the most transparent, just a straight wire pot, couple inputs and MM phono with a massive copper ground plane on the PCB, way back when they were a decent company - sold it to a member here around COVID time.
LOL, yes @EJ3 - I know some of your gear far too intimately. Another happy customer!
LOL, yes @EJ3 - I know some of your gear far too intimately. Another happy customer!
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Yes, the "Lab" outputs are 13dB higher than the normal ones for driving pro gear needing more than 2V signal, up to 15V to a high impedance load without adding distortion so a good option if you need to go RCA>XLR into a balanced amp.
And, if you want some of the best all in one unit there is this:
Description
The NAD 7600 is one of the world's most powerful, most sensitive, and flexible stereo receivers.It consists of NAD's three finest Monitor Series stereo separates, the 1300 preamplifier, 4300 tuner and 2600A power amplifier, combined on a single chassis and operated by infra-red remote control.
Specifications
Tuning range: FM, MWPower output: 400 watts into 8Ω (mono)
Frequency response: 20Hz to 20kHz
Total harmonic distortion: 0.03%
Damping factor: 120
Signal to noise ratio: 76dB (MC), 76dB (MM), 96dB (line)
Speaker load impedance: 2Ω to 8Ω
Dimensions: 435 x 162 x 422mm
Weight: 15.4kg
Year: 1987
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