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Excellent Recording Quality Music Albums/Tracks for Subjective (and Possibly Objective) Test/Check/Tuning of Multichannel Multi-Driver Multi-Amplifier Time-Aligned Active Stereo Audio System and Room Acoustics; at least a Portion and/or One Track being Analyzed by Color Spectrum of Adobe Audition in Common Parameters: [Part-09] Organ Music
Caution and Reminder:
Even though I refer to YouTube video/audio clip(s) in this post, I cannot guarantee its sound quality since I know little about YouTube's audio codec/compression, and furthermore I know nothing about your internet access environments.
(You would please take a look on [Part-00] Introduction here in my post.)
Hello friends,
Excellent reproduction of organ music, including the possible hall tone/acoustics, has been always one of fundamentals throughout my journey of home audio system setup. I need, therefore, proper "audio sampler" tracks of organ music of high recording quality.
Let me start this post with one YouTube clip in which young (at that time) German organist Sebastian Kuechler-Blessing plays JS Bach's Sinfonia (from Cantata BWV 26), transcription by Marcel Dupré;
I have been much impressed by this wonderful performance and recording quality since its upload to YouTube in April 2010, even though I still cannot get detailed information on the organ he played. I very carefully extracted the audio layer of this YouTube clip into 96 kHz AIFF for analysis with Adobe Audition 3.0.1;
As you can "see" on the color spectrum, the lowest large pipe tone would be22 32 Hz, and the "meaningful" low sound goes down to 16 Hz - 18 22 Hz zone, even though I do not know whether the 16 Hz - 18 22 Hz sounds are direct huge-pipe sound or some Helmholtz hall-air resonance caused by intense stimulation of the high gain pipe sound of 32 Hz or higher. By looking at his pedaling actions, the latter would be highly possible.
In any way, we definitely need Large-heavy L&R excellent sub-woofers (SWs) of nice transient characteristics (speed) and precisely time-aligned with woofers (WOs). As for the XO (cross over) from SW to WO, the following three factors;
(1) selection of XO Fq
(2) slopes of low-pass filter for SW and high-pass filter for WO
(3) transient characteristics in Fq zone of SW-only, SW+WO, WO-only
should be measured and tuned "in total" as I have explored throughout this project thread.
For transient characteristics of SW and WO, you would please refer to my posts #495, #497, #503, #507. And please find the summary of time alignment tuning in my post #520. Also you may find the latest system setup configurations in my post #540 including the total Fq response curve measured at my listening position;
The high Fq sound components of the YouTube clip can be well "seen" by reversing the color scale of the spectrum;
As we can see in the above "color-scale-reversed" spectrum, in addition to nice midrange squawkers, we also need excellent tweeters and super-tweeters.
As a whole, the amazing sound of this YouTube clip is nice challenge and reference to my/our audio system and room acoustics.
Edit on September 29, 2022
Today, I had nice discussion with @Shorty in our posts here, here, here, and here regarding the organ instrument in the YouTube clip. He kindly informed that the organ used is not a real physical one, but it is a virtual software organ which can simulate over 150 historic classical and theatre organs all over the world. Now I fully understand the "virtual quality" and "virtual huge pipes" of the video clip, and the reasons for that I could not find any info on "real" organ for the YouTube clip; a little bit of disappointment I feel. Nevertheless, I still assume/believe that the video clip and the performance would be a nice challenge and reference to/for our audio setup.
Even though I have several LP and CD albums on Bach's organ Trio Sonatas, I always come back to Ton Koopman's "world heritage" performance (IMHO) digitally recorded in 1982 by ARCHIV label which was first released in LP format, and later-on digitally remastered CD followed; I have both of them.
You can find the whole album on YouTube;
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL2k8ekJXk4nWEkVo-fcv45ZR1SQJnmV6j
I usually use one of the largo tracks, and one of the allegro tracks, for check and tuning of audio system and room acoustics; here I would like to share the two from Trio Sonata No.2 in C Minor BWV 526.
Slow tempo "Largo";
You can here on YouTube;
As you can see and hear, the recording is really nice in high S/N and cleanliness; the lowest pipe sound is 32 Hz.
Up-tempo "Allegro";
You can hear on YouTube;
For reproduction of rather quiet but excellent S/N with fantastic hall (church) reverberation tone reproduction, I always use this organ inauguration recording album for "The Great Organ of Saint Eustache Paris" performed by Jean Guillou with really excellent recording quality under Dorian label, especially the track-2 "Recit de Tierce en taille / Grigny ND".
Spectrum of the track-2 "Recit de Tierce en Taille / Grigny ND";
You can hear on YouTube;
I assume you would fully agree with me how suitable this track is as "audio sampler" for organ music reproduction with my (our) audio system and room acoustics.
Next, let me introduce you one of the amazingly excellent sound of modern huge organ in modern huge concert hall of wonderful acoustics in Japan, performed by blind organist Genzo Takehisa recorded by a famous engineer Mr. Yukio Kojima of Kojima Recordings, Inc.
The venue, Fukushima Ongakudo Hall (Fukushima Prefecture, Japan) and the organ;
The album, Genzo Takehisa; "Liebester Jesu; Airs for the Organ”, 1992, AEO-509 AEOLIAN RECORDS;
I usually use track-2: "Herzlich Thut Mich Verlangen / Bach JS":
Unfortunately, no YouTube clip nor any other web sharing available for this album. If you would be interested in hearing this album, please simply contact me by PM system writing your wish.
As you can easily find in the spectrum, the lowest clear pipe sound is 37 Hz (I confirmed it by placing mouse cursor there and read the numeric info.) I can also see and very faintly hear the low gain "meaningful" hall (Helmholtz?) resonance/reverberation around 25 Hz -30 Hz which I found preferable, not uncomfortable at all, it is even needed for the nice reproduction of the hall tone.
Over all, this recording is wonderful and also a nice challenge to our audio system, especially sound cleanliness, S/N, and low-Fq clear reproduction by sub-woofers down to 25 Hz - 50 Hz with the lowest pipe of 37 Hz.
The next and last share in this post is again the combination of organist Genzo Takehisa and recording engineer Yukio Kojima; performance of very small but wonderful organ at a small quiet chapel;
The album Genzo Takehisa: “The Realms of Keyboard Music Vol.2”, 1993, ALCD-1003 ALM Kojima Recordings, Inc:
I usually use track-1: "Preambulum in D major / Scheidemann H";
Unfortunately again, no YouTube clip nor any other web sharing available for this album. If you would be interested in hearing this album, please simply contact me by PM system writing your wish.
Looking at the spectrum, you may easily notice the extremely high S/N, sound cleanliness, and wonderful hall reverberation tone (even though such a small chapel); really amazing performance and recording quality I can hear, and very suitable for check and tuning of audio system.
Hopefully, my next post on this "post series" will be "[Part-10] Lute Music".
Edit: So far posted in this series;
[Part-00] Introduction: #587
[Part-01] Full Orchestral Music: #588
[Part-02] Solo Piano Music: #590
[Part-03] Typical(?) Smooth Jazz Music with Guitar: #591
[Part-04] Bimmel Bolle Antique Orgel; Extremely High-Energy High-Frequency Sharp Transient sound: #592
[Part-05] Color Spectrum of Tracks in CBS/Sony's "Super Audio Check CD": #593
[Part-06] Female Vocal in Jazz and Popular Music, and One Male Vocal Track for Comparison: #596
[Part-07] Female Vocal and Counter Tenor in Early Classical Music: #639
[Part-08] (Smooth?) Jazz Trio: #640
[Part-09] Organ Music: #641
[Part-10] Lute Music: #642
[Part-11] Violin Music: #643
[Part-12] Cello Music: #644
[Part-13] Harpsichord (Cembalo, Clavecin) Music: #645
[Part-14] Piano Concertos: #650
[Part-15] Again, CBS/Sony's "Super Audio Check CD": Analyzed by Adobe Audition 3.0.1 and MusicScope 2.1.0: #651
[Part-16] A Cappella Chorus and A Cappella Vocal Ensemble: #652
[Part-17] Excellent Quality Music Tracks, But Containing Unacceptably High Gain Low Frequency Air Conditioning Noises; What Counter Measures Can We Have? #658
[Part-18] An Interlude or Provisional Finale of the Post Series: #669
Caution and Reminder:
Even though I refer to YouTube video/audio clip(s) in this post, I cannot guarantee its sound quality since I know little about YouTube's audio codec/compression, and furthermore I know nothing about your internet access environments.
(You would please take a look on [Part-00] Introduction here in my post.)
Hello friends,
Excellent reproduction of organ music, including the possible hall tone/acoustics, has been always one of fundamentals throughout my journey of home audio system setup. I need, therefore, proper "audio sampler" tracks of organ music of high recording quality.
Let me start this post with one YouTube clip in which young (at that time) German organist Sebastian Kuechler-Blessing plays JS Bach's Sinfonia (from Cantata BWV 26), transcription by Marcel Dupré;
I have been much impressed by this wonderful performance and recording quality since its upload to YouTube in April 2010, even though I still cannot get detailed information on the organ he played. I very carefully extracted the audio layer of this YouTube clip into 96 kHz AIFF for analysis with Adobe Audition 3.0.1;
As you can "see" on the color spectrum, the lowest large pipe tone would be
In any way, we definitely need Large-heavy L&R excellent sub-woofers (SWs) of nice transient characteristics (speed) and precisely time-aligned with woofers (WOs). As for the XO (cross over) from SW to WO, the following three factors;
(1) selection of XO Fq
(2) slopes of low-pass filter for SW and high-pass filter for WO
(3) transient characteristics in Fq zone of SW-only, SW+WO, WO-only
should be measured and tuned "in total" as I have explored throughout this project thread.
For transient characteristics of SW and WO, you would please refer to my posts #495, #497, #503, #507. And please find the summary of time alignment tuning in my post #520. Also you may find the latest system setup configurations in my post #540 including the total Fq response curve measured at my listening position;
The high Fq sound components of the YouTube clip can be well "seen" by reversing the color scale of the spectrum;
As we can see in the above "color-scale-reversed" spectrum, in addition to nice midrange squawkers, we also need excellent tweeters and super-tweeters.
As a whole, the amazing sound of this YouTube clip is nice challenge and reference to my/our audio system and room acoustics.
Edit on September 29, 2022
Today, I had nice discussion with @Shorty in our posts here, here, here, and here regarding the organ instrument in the YouTube clip. He kindly informed that the organ used is not a real physical one, but it is a virtual software organ which can simulate over 150 historic classical and theatre organs all over the world. Now I fully understand the "virtual quality" and "virtual huge pipes" of the video clip, and the reasons for that I could not find any info on "real" organ for the YouTube clip; a little bit of disappointment I feel. Nevertheless, I still assume/believe that the video clip and the performance would be a nice challenge and reference to/for our audio setup.
Even though I have several LP and CD albums on Bach's organ Trio Sonatas, I always come back to Ton Koopman's "world heritage" performance (IMHO) digitally recorded in 1982 by ARCHIV label which was first released in LP format, and later-on digitally remastered CD followed; I have both of them.
You can find the whole album on YouTube;
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL2k8ekJXk4nWEkVo-fcv45ZR1SQJnmV6j
I usually use one of the largo tracks, and one of the allegro tracks, for check and tuning of audio system and room acoustics; here I would like to share the two from Trio Sonata No.2 in C Minor BWV 526.
Slow tempo "Largo";
You can here on YouTube;
As you can see and hear, the recording is really nice in high S/N and cleanliness; the lowest pipe sound is 32 Hz.
Up-tempo "Allegro";
You can hear on YouTube;
For reproduction of rather quiet but excellent S/N with fantastic hall (church) reverberation tone reproduction, I always use this organ inauguration recording album for "The Great Organ of Saint Eustache Paris" performed by Jean Guillou with really excellent recording quality under Dorian label, especially the track-2 "Recit de Tierce en taille / Grigny ND".
Spectrum of the track-2 "Recit de Tierce en Taille / Grigny ND";
You can hear on YouTube;
I assume you would fully agree with me how suitable this track is as "audio sampler" for organ music reproduction with my (our) audio system and room acoustics.
Next, let me introduce you one of the amazingly excellent sound of modern huge organ in modern huge concert hall of wonderful acoustics in Japan, performed by blind organist Genzo Takehisa recorded by a famous engineer Mr. Yukio Kojima of Kojima Recordings, Inc.
The venue, Fukushima Ongakudo Hall (Fukushima Prefecture, Japan) and the organ;
The album, Genzo Takehisa; "Liebester Jesu; Airs for the Organ”, 1992, AEO-509 AEOLIAN RECORDS;
I usually use track-2: "Herzlich Thut Mich Verlangen / Bach JS":
Unfortunately, no YouTube clip nor any other web sharing available for this album. If you would be interested in hearing this album, please simply contact me by PM system writing your wish.
As you can easily find in the spectrum, the lowest clear pipe sound is 37 Hz (I confirmed it by placing mouse cursor there and read the numeric info.) I can also see and very faintly hear the low gain "meaningful" hall (Helmholtz?) resonance/reverberation around 25 Hz -30 Hz which I found preferable, not uncomfortable at all, it is even needed for the nice reproduction of the hall tone.
Over all, this recording is wonderful and also a nice challenge to our audio system, especially sound cleanliness, S/N, and low-Fq clear reproduction by sub-woofers down to 25 Hz - 50 Hz with the lowest pipe of 37 Hz.
The next and last share in this post is again the combination of organist Genzo Takehisa and recording engineer Yukio Kojima; performance of very small but wonderful organ at a small quiet chapel;
The album Genzo Takehisa: “The Realms of Keyboard Music Vol.2”, 1993, ALCD-1003 ALM Kojima Recordings, Inc:
I usually use track-1: "Preambulum in D major / Scheidemann H";
Unfortunately again, no YouTube clip nor any other web sharing available for this album. If you would be interested in hearing this album, please simply contact me by PM system writing your wish.
Looking at the spectrum, you may easily notice the extremely high S/N, sound cleanliness, and wonderful hall reverberation tone (even though such a small chapel); really amazing performance and recording quality I can hear, and very suitable for check and tuning of audio system.
Hopefully, my next post on this "post series" will be "[Part-10] Lute Music".
Edit: So far posted in this series;
[Part-00] Introduction: #587
[Part-01] Full Orchestral Music: #588
[Part-02] Solo Piano Music: #590
[Part-03] Typical(?) Smooth Jazz Music with Guitar: #591
[Part-04] Bimmel Bolle Antique Orgel; Extremely High-Energy High-Frequency Sharp Transient sound: #592
[Part-05] Color Spectrum of Tracks in CBS/Sony's "Super Audio Check CD": #593
[Part-06] Female Vocal in Jazz and Popular Music, and One Male Vocal Track for Comparison: #596
[Part-07] Female Vocal and Counter Tenor in Early Classical Music: #639
[Part-08] (Smooth?) Jazz Trio: #640
[Part-09] Organ Music: #641
[Part-10] Lute Music: #642
[Part-11] Violin Music: #643
[Part-12] Cello Music: #644
[Part-13] Harpsichord (Cembalo, Clavecin) Music: #645
[Part-14] Piano Concertos: #650
[Part-15] Again, CBS/Sony's "Super Audio Check CD": Analyzed by Adobe Audition 3.0.1 and MusicScope 2.1.0: #651
[Part-16] A Cappella Chorus and A Cappella Vocal Ensemble: #652
[Part-17] Excellent Quality Music Tracks, But Containing Unacceptably High Gain Low Frequency Air Conditioning Noises; What Counter Measures Can We Have? #658
[Part-18] An Interlude or Provisional Finale of the Post Series: #669
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