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MQA Update
- Thread starter Steve H
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Because someone is pushing embedded shit on unwitting/unwanting consumers to monetize a useless «technology»?
The fact that they removed the ability to choose other filters is enough for me to stay away. I'd rather free myself from that kind of company and keep the resentment that they continue to earn.
We know what they are doing too. Not that much to it (QRONO).
Perhaps not, but I believe it was a reasonable response to the point you made regarding the new MQA technologies being viewed so negatively. I think the MQA debacle is the crux of the current state of play regarding their new tech. Many people simply do not trust the company or their tech.
Not to worry.
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DSJR
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I may have this wrong, but I resent the potential for 16 bit red book, to be taken to 13 bit (UK FM noise levels) just because of some unneeded and unnecessary jiggery pokery with the last three bits. I mean, noise shaping can improve on the -96dB perceived red book standard and most half decent dacs these days can go far better if presented with the right material, so what the heck is the point? Please correct me if I'm wrong in all this.
Properly controlled listening impressions? Or the usual subjective BS?
I don't see any listening impressions - controlled or otherwise in the linked posts.
But there is a built in charge for you to have it in gear that would be fine without it. I call BS in every which way possible.
Roland68
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Some people don't want to see a very simple truth.
Our source file (FLAC, WAV, etc.) contains 100% of the data, which is the maximum that can be there. This is also the maximum that a DAC can output as a D/A conversion during playback; 101% is not possible.
For MQA or QRONO to provide any kind of improvement, a clearly audible deficit would have to occur in the conventional recording and playback technology, meaning you would end up with significantly less than 100%.
If that isn't the case, MQA/QRONO are absolutely useless, as has already been established with MQA. The same applies to FOCUS and AIRIA.
@Blumlein 88 has impressively demonstrated how "bad" our D/A and A/D conversion processes are in this thread "8th generation ADC/DAC loop vs the original.....can you hear it?"
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We didn't have 100% before. But QRONO seems to be getting closer.
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Sounds like the audio equivalent of Fyre Fest 2.
Roland68
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Then please provide some real numbers about where we've been so far and where Qrono is supposed to be now.
Substantiated and verifiable measurements and results would, of course, be helpful.
Similar statements were made about MQA back then, and it turned out to be a load of BS.
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Yup, Fool me twice... Bad track record. Show me the science and results and trust may be restored..... Slowly.
watchnerd
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That means it is inferior to what we already have. A step backwards. Like MQA. Completely useless.
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So, with a test track that is capable of generating imaging artifacts in the ultrasonic range, if you were looking how close the recording of the DAC matches the digital file from the phase standpoint, the Bluesound Node Icon with QRONO d2a actually beats the Fosi ZD3.