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Which one is it?
I don't know of any TV that has really good speakers.
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I don't know of any TV that has really good speakers.
Sorry, no names. No free advertising for the company. Try a few products from 2025; you might find one that's appropriate.
Audionaut
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I thought this was exclusive to Pearljam5000 in this thread.
Well, there are no TVs with really good sound.
I have an Onkyo certified TV with integrated subwoofer here. It's not bad, or you can watch with it without necessarily wanting different sound.
But it's miles away from really good loudspeakers.
Well, times are changing rapidly, and so is the technology. Things are becoming smaller, tinier and flatter. Moreover, the younger generation is not particularly interested in boxes. Anyway, it's quite pleasant to listen to classical music, jazz, or rock, etc., through this black patch on the wall. By the way, our room isn't that large, approximately 5m x 4m, and we are listening from about 3m away. That Onkyo must be pretty old. Onkyo doesn't exist anymore.
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Three years is quite a difference now. Technology advances more rapidly, by the month, even by the week. It's not like when we were younger.
The first iPhone was released in 2007. What a difference it makes today! The first smartwatch appeared in 1998, and now we can make phone calls from it, check heartbeat, ECG and whatnot!
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Well, I haven't really seen any relevant progress in the field of loudspeakers in the last three years.
A smartphone from 2022 is not significantly worse than one from 2025.
Many CPUs from 2022 are still in Intel and AMD's current portfolio today.
Medicine hasn't made any real progress in the last three years. Statistically speaking, the diseases and causes of death remain the same.
The only thing that has changed dramatically is the length or shortness of the model cycles for many products, although not every new model represents a real improvement.
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Well, I agree on that.
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The little exciters have always surprised me that they work as well as they do.
I have some NXT demo speakers.
Pleasant but HiFi they very definitely are not though.
I suppose it depends on what you are used to and expectations. Modal radiation is an interesting and effective technology but the laws of physics have not been repealed.
I didn't mean those NXT type exciters, which is a dead story nowadays.
That is what they use on TVs
If that is the case, those engineers have come quite a long way, much further than the cone driver designers.
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Not the most beautiful, it’s unique. Concrete horn speakers.
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Rel
That should come with a trigger warning!
I refuse to take REL any more seriously than they take their marketing BS.
And for what they charge and claim their Subs are capable of, how is it they can’t move from grille tabs and sockets to magnets?!!
I’m done. Thank you for listening.
There was an article decades ago here in the UK where somebody had built folded concrete horns underneath the floor using the full length of the room back and forth to produce a very long horn and the outlet was huge. Driven by the back of a Tannoy 15" coaxial.
Another was a Japanese person who had built a steeple over his listening room with the whole ceiling as the opening of a mono-ed bass horn.
I did consider doing the under floor folded horn myself at one time.
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That should come with a trigger warning!
I refuse to take REL any more seriously than they take their marketing BS.
And for what they charge and claim their Subs are capable of, how is it they can’t move from grille tabs and sockets to magnets?!!
I’m done. Thank you for listening.
I don't think REL was always like that; they used to be more reasonably priced, but they've changed tack since and gone for a different segment of the market.
I had REL subwoofer and one of the benefits of the REL was the high level input, that allowed you to connect it in parallel with your speakers, such that you could use it with a stereo amplifier that had no dedicated subwoofer channel.
It was something of a half-arsed solution, as their was no way of high passing the speakers, so the they played full-range and the sub just filled in below them. As such, you didn't get the benefit of your speakers not having to play the lowest notes and being less stressed. However, it did allow me to try out the subwoofer thing relatively easily.
Having tried it, I would now consider a subwoofer fairly essential, with smaller monitors. If I had space for pretty big speakers that can reach down fairly low on their own, maybe less so.
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Axhorn perhaps?
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