Most beautiful speakers in the world ?

[Pearljam5000]

At least the crossover is very complex lol

 

[Lekha]

They may be overpriced but that alone doesn't count and if I was super-wealthy I'd pay it

If you were wealthy, you won't, for you'd know the value of earning money.

 

[Mart68]

If you were wealthy, you won't, for you'd know the value of earning money.

Oh I know that, don't worry.

There's no point having money if you're not going to spend it. What else can you do with it, other than swim about in it like Scrooge McDuck?

 

[Frank Dernie]

If you were wealthy, you won't, for you'd know the value of earning money.

Really?
When I was earning a good salary I bought a pair of speakers that cost the same as a Porsche 911 and still listen to them every day. It WAS an extravagance that I considered at great length but I considered that for the number of hours a day I use them and how long they would last they were much, much better value than a car.
And they have been and I consider them to have been a good buy for me, almost 30 years later.

I have considered changing them from time to time but either too ugly (Genelec 8361 with W371) or not suited to my listening environment (D&D 8C, ideally needs to be near a wall).

I know the value of money, every penny I have I earned myself.

 

[Lekha]

There's no point having money if you're not going to spend it.

Absolutely!
But for snake-oil.

 

[Frank Dernie]

Absolutely!
But for snake-oil.

Spending £50 on a fuse is snake oil.
Spending £100k on speakers may not be.

 

[Lekha]

Really?

And they have been and I consider them to have been a good buy for me, almost 30 years later.

Just imagine $850,000 over 30 years, which amounts to $28,333.33 per year, or $2,361.11 per month.
Your wife would be quite pleased as well!

 

[Frank Dernie]

Just imagine $850,000 over 30 years, which amounts to $28,333.33 per year, or $2,361.11 per month.
Your wife would be quite pleased as well!

I was not rich enough to spend that much but better off than many.
My wife doesn't care about money at all, which is a good quality in a wife.

 

[Lekha]

I was not rich enough to spend that much but better off than many.
My wife doesn't care about money at all, which is a good quality in a wife.

Just have a search how many pairs of speakers you can buy for $2,361.11, that will last 30 years, or even for just 10 years.
Or even for less than $1000...
Rest is just snake-oil.

 

[Frank Dernie]

Just have a search how many pairs of speakers you can buy for $2,361.11, that will last 30 years, or even for just 10 years.
Or even for less than $1000...
Rest is just snake-oil.

Your understanding of the meaning of snake oil differs from mine, and US dollars are not a currency I ever need to use

 

[Mart68]

Just imagine $850,000 over 30 years, which amounts to $28,333.33 per year, or $2,361.11 per month.
Your wife would be quite pleased as well!

It's all relative. My last set of speakers cost me 10 week's wages. No problem spending that, it's my money, the wife would not have a say in it (if I had a wife).

Now if I earned 10 times what I actually did (I'm now retired) I'd have no problem scaling that spend up accordingly. I listen to music every day, so I'm going to get value for my money.

In contrast things I don't care about - furniture for example - was all got free or very cheap second hand.

 

[Lekha]

Your understanding of the meaning of snake oil differs from mine,

I grok that.

I'm now retired

This suggests that your hearing has deteriorated... the set of speakers costing ten weeks' wages won't restore that. What we hear is often what we imagine we are hearing, as our ears are not microphones, what we hear cannot be represented on a graph, , except by an ear doctor.

 

[Pearljam5000]

Really?
When I was earning a good salary I bought a pair of speakers that cost the same as a Porsche 911 and still listen to them every day. It WAS an extravagance that I considered at great length but I considered that for the number of hours a day I use them and how long they would last they were much, much better value than a car.
And they have been and I consider them to have been a good buy for me, almost 30 years later.

I have considered changing them from time to time but either too ugly (Genelec 8361 with W371) or not suited to my listening environment (D&D 8C, ideally needs to be near a wall).

I know the value of money, every penny I have I earned myself.

Get 8381
Then you're done for life

 

[Frank Dernie]

Get 8381
Then you're done for life

I have considered it but I'm too old to appreciate them long enough

 

[Purité Audio]

I grok that.

This suggests that your hearing has deteriorated... the set of speakers costing ten weeks' wages won't restore that. What we hear is often what we imagine we are hearing, as our ears are not microphones, what we hear cannot be represented on a graph, , except by an ear doctor.

Nonsense.
Keith

 

[Frank Dernie]

I grok that.

This suggests that your hearing has deteriorated... the set of speakers costing ten weeks' wages won't restore that. What we hear is often what we imagine we are hearing, as our ears are not microphones, what we hear cannot be represented on a graph, , except by an ear doctor.

 

[Mart68]

I grok that.

This suggests that your hearing has deteriorated... the set of speakers costing ten weeks' wages won't restore that. What we hear is often what we imagine we are hearing, as our ears are not microphones, what we hear cannot be represented on a graph.

No doubt it has deteriorated since I was 20, but I'm 'only' 56.

Yes, probably up to fifty percent of what we perceive is created entirely in the mind but there's not an awful lot we can do about that.

 

[Frank Dernie]

Nonsense.
Keith

Sadly 99.99% of everything I have seen by this member can be thus described.

 

[Doenerkunde]

It all comes down to eonomies of scale. Total global lifetime sales of such pairs of 700+k super speakers are likely to be in the single digits.

 

[Curvature]

I do not think a brushing or rough surface from casting will influence the effectiveness or performance of the waveguide. Such unevenness is way below 0.2mm, and the smallest wavelength to be reproduced is 17mm. A lot of waveguides have an uneven surface, may it result from lacquering or casting.

Variations do influence the wave propagation, but in a very small way. https://www.audiosciencereview.com/...imulation-analysis-screws-in-waveguide.22985/

Your reasoning is sound, though.

Edit: The thing I can't understand in that speaker is the extended cabinet edges. Uncontrolled diffraction ruins anything the waveguide achieves.