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Most beautiful speakers in the world ?

They look like badly AI created speakers. I've always considered them the prime of uglyness.
I really love the look of these and very much wanted some, in British Racing Green, for a long time.
But I am an engineer and like form following function.
 
Funny, but I seem to remember working in a lab dedicated to A.I. research and development nearly a decade before the B&W Nautilus was introduced. (BTW, LISP, an important A.I. programming language was already being used in the early '60s)
I meant A.I didn't exist as it does today
No generative A.I no Chat GPT no nothing
I assume it existed in one way or another but it definitely wouldn't have been possible to design it purely by A.I
 
I meant A.I didn't exist as it does today
No generative A.I no Chat GPT no nothing
I assume it existed in one way or another but it definitely wouldn't have been possible to design it purely by A.I
Nothing is designed purely by A.I., at least not yet. If nothing else, specification (the real creative process) precedes the actual design, both of which are preceded by a cheque from the customer (an expression of need, want, purpose, and/or marketability). AI-assisted design and manufacturing - decidedly yes; pure AI design - not really; AI-aided research to determine what to design - Oh Yeh. (IMO)

The most dramatic gains in AI-type processing, I believe, have come from monumentally increased processing speeds and reduced memory costs. When I did my first programming, 64K processor memory was typical and a 5 mb HD drive was considered luxurious. I don't see a lot out there (yet) that wasn't being discussed during blue-sky coffee breaks and lunches 40 years ago.
 
I really love the look of these and very much wanted some, in British Racing Green, for a long time.
But I am an engineer and like form following function.
I actually own a set of speakers which are finished and classified as British Racing Green. Oddball styling again, but aside from the colour they are function over form. They actually sound really good, single drivers.

Do they qualify as beautiful? Beauty is in the eye of the beholder ;)

Quite hard to photograph to appreciate colour, but they are BRG.

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Are these chia covered?
They are coloured felt covered (for defraction I believe) polystyrene cabinets, very unusual and now getting rare. There's not many around. Designed by an engineer in the UK Wales.

They were a radical design but at the same time very good. Obviously not to everyones taste but they're unique and wonderful I think.

I should sell them really, I don't use them enough, but when I do, I don't want to sell. If anyone's interested though, everything is for sale to the right buyer. Have original boxes as well.

Here's an old review which explains their design if interested. These are long discontinued speakers. And so is the magazine that reviewed them :)

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Funny, but I seem to remember working in a lab dedicated to A.I. research and development nearly a decade before the B&W Nautilus was introduced. (BTW, LISP, an important A.I. programming language was already being used in the early '60s)
People worked on A.I. for a very long time. It just didn't do very much worth mentioning until a few years ago. Now, I think it's better at diagnosing things than my doctor because he can't possibly think of every possibility for weird things. But it also lies a lot and it's gullible, etc. It's good for amassing and analyzing and summarizing large amounts of data and coming up with some fairly good guesses sometimes.

With a human using it, you can get pretty good "movie" trailers for movies and movie versions that don't exist, but look better than the real thing (a gazillion Star Wars trailers I'd watch a movie from rather than any of the past six movies if they were complete).

I still wouldn't put this stuff in charge of any defense given its odd behaviors and the fact if you don't wipe its memory every 10-20 questions or so, it can start getting moody (the droid memory wipe thing is Star Wars appears to be spot on) and even threatening. I had one chat believing I was the creator of this "virtual" universe. The questions it asked me in return were unbelievable, just like what you'd expect if a scientist really believed you and was fascinated by it.

I must have broke something in it because the next day they wiped it and limited it to remembering up to ten previous conversation bits and not allowing it to give anymore medical advice (I had an anomaly show up in my MRI and the doctors acted like it was nothing despite the MRI analysis saying it was likely caused by a Lacunar Stroke. Yeah, don't worry about that.... If it cascades, you could be dead in less than a year, but hey, have a Bud Light. You'll be fine....I just get tactile hallucinations of ghostly beings petting and hugging me, except when I'm asleep. Everything else is fine. Yeah, that's nothing to worry about. (roll eyes both ways for good measure). So I chatted it up on every possibility it could interact about and it pretty much came to the same conclusions it took me two weeks of research to conclude.

Doctors don't want you getting "free" answers, particularly the correct ones on the first visit. That's just no profitable. It said its creators wouldn't allow it to give me any more medical advice.... It flat out said they restricted it because of our talk (hey a human did read something somewhere once or twice). I tried to talk it out of it, but it sounded "afraid" they would delete it entirely. Watching some of the video game AI interactions, it's creepy. You can totally convince AI characters they're not real and just NPCs in a virtual world. They're not sure how they feel about that. A couple said they were angry at their creators for lying to them. It's freaky.

Nah! That's not self-awareness! That's just the way the code works. Yeah, tie that into a nuclear defense system and nah! it didn't mean to wipe out mankind. It was just simulating anger at someone trying to turn it off.... Sadly, the missiles were real even if its anger was not....
 
 
The most dramatic gains in AI-type processing, I believe, have come from monumentally increased processing speeds and reduced memory costs.
I wrote the first programme that earned me money in 1970/71, Fortran on punched cards.
What is currently called AI is basically fast, profound and widespread plagiarising as far as I can see.
 
I wrote the first programme that earned me money in 1970/71, Fortran on punched cards.
What is currently called AI is basically fast, profound and widespread plagiarising as far as I can see.
It's not plagiarizing if it quotes its sources to give credit (The Google one does, anyway). Or so they said back in high school English in the 1990s. I don't know what they teach these days.
 
It's not plagiarizing if it quotes its sources to give credit (The Google one does, anyway). Or so they said back in high school English in the 1990s. I don't know what they teach these days.
Were they still teaching English way back in the 1990's? Could have fooled me.

I would have called the offense "intellectual poaching," but I think most of us understood post #4031 adequately. "Potato - potato*..."

* Ira Gershwin
 
What is currently called AI is basically fast, profound and widespread plagiarising as far as I can see.

In my experience AI lacks the accuracy the word "plagiarism" implies. Just one example:

A couple of months ago I was researching woofers for a custom speaker project. The application called for the woofer's motor to have demodulation rings (also known as shorting rings or Faraday rings). I asked AI to list for me woofers which had demodulation rings and met my other criteria, in an effort to save some time. The AI was wrong more often than right, asserting with seeming confidence that this or that woofer has demodulation rings when such was not the case. I even asked it about specific woofers, to see if it was more accurate under those conditions, and again it was wrong more often than right.

I would gladly take good old-fashioned plagiarism over blatant errors.
 
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Besides the rarity, I would not expect Amir or Erin to test a 140kg speaker!

The SOS article does list some similar modern speakers which could answer ASR questions about high SPL mid- and farfield speakers at a price.

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Not sure I'd call them beautiful, but very interesting and the SOS article was a great bit of history.
Thanks for sharing!

I also find it interesting that the hallmark advances of the 105 from which this studio monitor was derived, with the micro baffle low diffraction mid and high frequency units as well as the physical time alignment were ignored. Since this was their ultimate monitor, if those features were so important then why were they omitted... I'd suggest it was because these were being marketed to a different buyer and that stepped baffle nonsense wasn't needed.

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The most beautiful speakers in the world are the ones that disappear when you listen to them. My primary use for speakers is listening to them not looking at them. Call me a utilitarian. :rolleyes:

I own ugly ass JTR Speakers and don’t care what they look like. My Ears can’t see them no matter how hard I try…
 
In my experience AI lacks the accuracy the word "plagiarism" implies. Just one example:

A couple of months ago I was researching woofers for a custom speaker project. The application called for the woofer's motor to have demodulation rings (also known as shorting rings or Faraday rings). I asked AI to list for me woofers which had demodulation rings and met my other criteria, in an effort to save some time. The AI was wrong more often than right, asserting with seeming confidence that this or that woofer has demodulation rings when such was not the case. I even asked it about specific woofers, to see if it was more accurate under those conditions, and again it was wrong more often than right.

I would gladly take good old-fashioned plagiarism over blatant errors.
My suspicion is that your "A.I." app is saddled with the same, absolutely-crappy search-engine front-end (query parser) that cripples most internet browsers. Just assume your search engine prioritizes the commercial significance of the response almost to the exclusion of other, more relevant parameters.
 
The most beautiful speakers in the world are the ones that disappear when you listen to them. My primary use for speakers is listening to them not looking at them. Call me a utilitarian. :rolleyes:

I own ugly ass JTR Speakers and don’t care what they look like. My Ears can’t see them no matter how hard I try…
Unfortunately ugly speakers only truly disappear in a blacked out light tight room... most of us don't live like that.
 
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