More on power cables or Moron power cables

[SIY]

There are no power conditioners in medical equipment plugs.

Maybe I'm misunderstanding you- I see no mention of power conditioning in your quoted text. It just describes what hospital-grade plugs are: plugs tested for connection reliability.

 

[gene_stl]

I think he may have one built into an iec plug.

 

[TankTop]

Maybe I'm misunderstanding you- I see no mention of power conditioning in your quoted text. It just describes what hospital-grade plugs are: plugs tested for connection reliability.

Exactly. The guy in the video said his cables have noise filter in the iec plug like medical equipment. I posted what additional test a medical equipment iec must pass to be certified.

 

[Tks]

I think it is extremely unlikely that any medical device manufacturer would pay $350 for a power cord set. $15 maybe.
(I spent decades in the medical device industry). I actually have some medical grade IEC cord sets. They don't make things sound any better but they are rugged, well built, and kewl. I always look for gauges bigger than the usual 18/3 .

It would be amusing to ask him who his medical device customers are and how much he charges them. If any.

Edit: A very brief Amazon search reveals that nicely made clear molded hospital grade cordsets RETAIL for $12.24. Since margins on Amazon are probably less than they used to be I would think that a medical gear maker might pay as much as $5. There is an audiophile decorated Viborg for 27.90 a bargain at about half the price.

And then you would be told how offended you're making them feel.

Or.. "that's offensive" or.. "we see you're just trying to cause problems" or.. "that's uncalled for" or any other diversionary tactic, most reasonable dismissal being "We don't serve the medical industry tho"

 

[restorer-john]

I just got a loaner of an APx555 B Series. Oddly, for a device with this kind of sensitivity, the power cord included was pretty standard IEC.

What!? Those cheapskates at AP didn't send you their cryogenically treated, five nines optional IEC cable? Without it, any measurements will have to be taken with a grain of salt I'm afraid.

 

[SIY]

What!? Those cheapskates at AP didn't send you their cryogenically treated, five nines optional IEC cable? Without it, any measurements will have to be taken with a grain of salt I'm afraid.

Huh, Oz is different than here. Here, we take measurements with test leads.

 

[restorer-john]

Huh, Oz is different than here. Here, we take measurements with test leads

Funny guy.

 

[Hypnotoad]

The sad thing is that I often see people selling these expensive cables and the reason is usually they are upgrading, so they not only waste a grand on the first one, they sell it at a loss then waste even more money on a more expensive one. Some people have too much money.

 

[Kal Rubinson]

Some people have too much money.

For now.

 

[restorer-john]

Some people have too much money.

You know what they say about fools and their money.

 

[Sal1950]

You know what they say about fools and their money.

And there's a sucker born every minute.

 

[mvil]

One of these gadgets miniaturized to fit into a cordset. Some instrumentation has them built in either as in the photo below or in the power entry module. Either way it would have had the same effect on his little radio set. They keep out the hash caused by every dimmer, scr controller, switching power supply for LED and fluorescent lighting,, nearby. These things don't hurt anything and maybe good to have in your system. But you can't hear them unless you are very suggestible.View attachment 29612

This is what a good surge protector already does.

Certificate with measurments: https://www.apc.com/salestools/KHSH-9TS5ER/KHSH-9TS5ER_R0_EN.pdf

https://www.apc.com/shop/hr/en/prod...one-Coax-Protection-230V-Germany/P-PMF83VT-GR

Cheap on amazon.

 

[gene_stl]

Here is are power cable sets from Shaffner one of the companies that wrote the book on power entries, with built in emi filters. Wholesale quantitiy price about $34 each.

Mouser Electronics Shaffner page


Shaffner data sheet

 

[bigguyca]

This guy is blatantly lying! It is against the law to blatantly lie in advertising.

“Green dot receptacles are marked to designate they are Hospital Grade. Another designation of “Hospital Grade” or “Hosp. Grade” is printed on the back of the receptacle. First off, these receptacles must qualify for UL certifications that general use receptacles must also qualify for. Then, these receptacles must undergo a different series of tests to be labeled with a green dot.
One such test is for the strength of the connection. A receptacle is hung upside down with a pin inserted and a weight attached. The connection is supposed to remain intact without the pin popping out. The receptacle must also be durable enough to withstand crashing and crushing. Extra grounding reliability is also built in.”

Upside down means that the receptacle is rotated 180 degrees in the vertical plane. There is nothing in the National Electric code concerning whether the ground connection in a 120V outlet is to be above or below the hot and neutral connection. There is no upside down per the standard.

 

[ahofer]

Sigh

https://forum.audiogon.com/discussi...endgrid&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=website

 

[Wes]

Moron Cables - that would be a great name for an audiophool company!!

 

[Head_Unit]

here is nothing in the National Electric code concerning whether the ground connection in a 120V outlet is to be above or below the hot and neutral connection.

That means our sound is randomly UPSIDE DOWN half the time?!?!?!?

 

[Gregss]

Upside down means that the receptacle is rotated 180 degrees in the vertical plane. There is nothing in the National Electric code concerning whether the ground connection in a 120V outlet is to be above or below the hot and neutral connection. There is no upside down per the standard.

Hello All,

Don't know about a hospital or other standard, in any country, but in the university hospital where I worked the power outlets were put in with the ground connection at the top. This was such that if the metal outlet cover got lose and dropped it would be less likely to short the plugs power pins. Makes some sense as a preventative measure, but really the covers should not be loose to start with. FWIW.

 

[paulraphael]

Idea for a startup: make a very expensive power cable with a large internet-connected black-box active device built into it. Describe the function of the black box in mystical terms. But it's actually a little computer that mines bitcoins with the audiophile's power, and drops them into your online wallet.

Unrelatedly, curiosity got the better of me, and I looked up what a "hospital grade outlet" actually is. As far as I can tell, it's certified to have a higher level of reliability, especially with regards to grounding. I didn't see anything about added depth or emotion.

 

[JustJones]

Hospital grade grips the plug tighter for one thing. Makes it hard to unplug grandpa by accident.