carlcamper
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It works and uses the default EQ in the DSP cable. Unfortunately, the Moondrop Link app in the Apple App Store doesn’t work with it.So it does work with the USB-C iPhones? The app as well?
It works and uses the default EQ in the DSP cable. Unfortunately, the Moondrop Link app in the Apple App Store doesn’t work with it.So it does work with the USB-C iPhones? The app as well?
I believe it has been mentioned before, but FreeDSP, CDSP, and all these DSP-enabled IEMs, are UAC-1 or UAC-2 compliant. They work (as in "playing music with whatever current DSP setting applied") with any source that support a UAC-1 or UAC-2 device: iOS, Android, Windows, MacOS, Linux, RaspPI, PlayStation, etc. Adapters may be needed: Lightning to USB-C for my old iPhone 12, USB-A to USB-C for my Laptop.So it does work with the USB-C iPhones? The app as well?
Thanks, at least that. So when intending to use it with an iPhone, you have to use a possibly noisy update cable with a an external DAC and fixed EQ, to get what the $25 7Hz Salnotes x Crinacle Zero 2 and an $9 Apple dongle do out of the box.It works and uses the default EQ in the DSP cable. Unfortunately, the Moondrop Link app in the Apple App Store doesn’t work with it.
I'm with you on this: I haven't bought Dusk, because I don't see the value it brings over something like Moondrop May or, as you said, 7Hz Zero:2. But I have zero problem with somebody valuing the higher end built, accessories, Crinacle endorsement and so on...Thanks, at least that. So when intending to use with an iPhone you have to use a possibly noisy update cable with a an external DAC and fixed EQ, to get what the $25 7Hz Salnotes x Crinacle Zero 2 and an $9 Apple dongle do out of the box.
The Dusk, without the EQ cable, follows Crinacle's target at least as well as the Zero2 does. It does so better with the EQ cable, but it's not inferior to Zero2 without. Whether that, the higher build quality, smaller nozzle, and better accessories are worth the price delta is another question, but it doesn't need the EQ cable to match the Zero2.Thanks, at least that. So when intending to use with an iPhone you have to use a possibly noisy update cable with a an external DAC and fixed EQ, to get what the $25 7Hz Salnotes x Crinacle Zero 2 and an $9 Apple dongle do out of the box.
The Dusk needs the DSP preset to match the Zero:2 in target adherence.The Dusk, without the EQ cable, follows Crinacle's target at least as well as the Zero2 does. It does so better with the EQ cable, but it's not inferior to Zero2 without.
Exactly, the graphs were shown several time already in this thread.The Dusk needs the DSP preset to match the Zero:2 in target adherence.
Analog vs Analog, the Dusk is worse in that aspect I would say.
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Sure, no contradition here. The Dusk looks better, no doubt, but it is more an argument in direction of jewelery (maybe comfort and fit, but also debatable) than sound quality.I'm with you on this: I haven't bought Dusk, because I don't see the value it brings over something like Moondrop May or, as you said, 7Hz Zero:2. But I have zero problem with somebody valuing the higher end built, accessories, Crinacle endorsement and so on...
Is diffuse field the correct target to compare to here?The Dusk needs the DSP preset to match the Zero:2 in target adherence.
Analog vs Analog, the Dusk is worse in that aspect I would say.
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Diffuse field is not the target response.Is diffuse field the correct target to compare to here?
Well it literally says Diffuse Field Target *shrug*Diffuse field is not the target response.
That is just the name they are using, with some arbitrary tilt. This is done, as for the B&K 5128 up to now no approved target exists. I think Sean Olive is working on one. There are people claiming that this is a better way and it should also correspond to the desired tilt of speakers in a room. But there are a lot of things to be clarified still and many seemingly endless threads on this topic here on ASR already. While the B&K 5128 appears to have a more realistic pinna and ear canal, without all the research done on the G.R.A.S it is not too telling. But we will see.Well it literally says Diffuse Field Target *shrug*
Ok. I think what I was getting at is I wasn't aware Crinacle was targeting Diffuse Field with his IEMs. He has his own target, called IEF, which would make more sense in the context of "target adherence".That is just the name they are using, with some arbitrary tilt. This is done, as for the B&K 5128 up to now no approved target exists. I think Sean Olive is working on one. There are people claiming that this is a better way and it should also correspond to the desired tilt of speakers in a room. But there are a lot of things to be clarified still and many seemingly endless threads on this topic here on ASR already. While the B&K 5128 appears to have a more realistic pinna and ear canal, without all the research done on the G.R.A.S it is not too telling. But we will see.
Not getting the artifact on mine, see my post before yoursHere’s quite a critical review of the dusk with it’s audible digital artefacts from “Listener” @ Headphones . com website
Not getting the artifact on mine, see my post before yours
No worries, so it’s either a bad batch, its picky on usb-c sources, or it triggers on certain versions of songs (i tested the track on both Spotify lossy and Apple Music lossless)I’m late to the party yet again.![]()
The FreeDSP cable is built around an arm-type chip (with a DAC or powerDAC I don’t know). It is designed for mobile use, and I would not be surprised if there is some battery saving feature. The exact conditions where the artifacts happen may not be entirely known…No worries, so it’s either a bad batch, its picky on usb-c sources, or it triggers on certain versions of songs (i tested the track on both Spotify lossy and Apple Music lossless)
May as well use this as my first post since nobody else is chiming in. I can't really answer the comparison but...Has anyone listened to these yet? How do they sound in comparison to know IEM's that were all familiar with? I think we've already debated the measurements to death.