renaudrenaud
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Packaging is so important to you?
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Moondrop Paradise, Amazing curves!
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renaudrenaud
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For me the most important point is "The spec".
Look at this:
"Diaphragm With Pure Silver Etched Circuit:-
Moondrop has featured new high-damping flexible composite material for the diaphragm. Para also features redesigned highly-elastic pure silver circuit etching on the diaphragm on a two-dimensional topological structure. Both these technologies and high-power magnetic architecture, thanks to the N52 Neodymium circuit designed with FEA(Finite Element Analysis), enable the Moondrop Para to have a high-sensitivity and low-impedance design. Users can enjoy its premium sound with basic devices as well."
Finally a pair of headphones using the turbo-encabulator technology!
Look at this:
"Diaphragm With Pure Silver Etched Circuit:-
Moondrop has featured new high-damping flexible composite material for the diaphragm. Para also features redesigned highly-elastic pure silver circuit etching on the diaphragm on a two-dimensional topological structure. Both these technologies and high-power magnetic architecture, thanks to the N52 Neodymium circuit designed with FEA(Finite Element Analysis), enable the Moondrop Para to have a high-sensitivity and low-impedance design. Users can enjoy its premium sound with basic devices as well."
Finally a pair of headphones using the turbo-encabulator technology!
Would my Topping DX5 (set on High Gain) be able to drive these at a reasonable level? I understand that the DX5 is current limited at 50 Ohm and lower.
If I would like to get optimal performance on these headphones (at a reasonable cost) would it be worth it to buy a Topping A90 or would a cheaper Topping device also suffice? I am assuming the DAC in the DX5 is pretty good and I won't need to upgrade my DAC also.
If I would like to get optimal performance on these headphones (at a reasonable cost) would it be worth it to buy a Topping A90 or would a cheaper Topping device also suffice? I am assuming the DAC in the DX5 is pretty good and I won't need to upgrade my DAC also.
renaudrenaud
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I don't have the DX5 but I have a SMSL C200, with a bit less power than the DX5.
With the SMSL C200 I don't need High Gain setting to listen to the PARA. With High Gain on, it's difficult for me to go over 50 (on 99) with the volume level.
I also have a A90 (among plenty of others) on my desktop because this is my favorite amp: no bs with a remote. Everything is natural: manual selectors and big volume knob. Of course it rules...
Bleib
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I got this last week as well. It doesn't have a lot of energy in the bas region but has some extra in treble. Quite comfy and good for gaming I suppose but it's not exactly made for professsional monitoring
Eddie_Vanjovi
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This sounds amazing...
And the topping L30II powers these just fine.
Distortion in the bass doesn't sound too bad.
Eddie_Vanjovi
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These things are rather heavy. I'm probably going to return them.
renaudrenaud
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I understand, comfort is very important.
No problem on my side, I like the PARA!
No problem on my side, I like the PARA!
renaudrenaud
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Did anyone try Moondrop Para with Oratory's PEQ settings? He added -9.5db preamp to compensate a steep bass roll off
Mr Swing King
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The Para (not Paradise) is a very good option for folks wanting that oh so illusive “planar HD600”. It’s certainly a lot cheaper than the MM-500.
I loved the sound quality, but I am getting tired of headphones that clock in at over 500 grams. Same reason I didn’t jive with the Audeze.
The question is; do you feel the added subbass makes up for the downgrade in comfort? I didn’t.
Btw a good headphone amp is advised. The sensitivity is in V not dB/mW.
I loved the sound quality, but I am getting tired of headphones that clock in at over 500 grams. Same reason I didn’t jive with the Audeze.
The question is; do you feel the added subbass makes up for the downgrade in comfort? I didn’t.
Btw a good headphone amp is advised. The sensitivity is in V not dB/mW.
Aynsley
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I can understand why Moondrop (MOONDROP) chose to abbrieviate PARADISE to PARA, and COSMOPOLITAN to COSMO, to match the Chinese naming, but I wish Moondrop/MOONDROP would go easy on the all-caps.
I agree with you that no amount of spec improvements can out-balance discomfort. The sound quality may be superb, but if you have to pull off the cans (or pull out the IEMs) half-way through a symphony because of heat/pressure/pain, it does tend to spoil the enjoyment of the music.
Mr Swing King
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It’s the same old story; upgrade part of the sound and you inadvertently downgrade something else.
I’ve heard a fair few supposed HD600/650 killers in my day, and apart from a better bass (subbass) response, I still prefer my Sennies.
The comfort is brilliant and I also prefer the mids and treble over something like the Para or the MM-500.
I wish newer headphone makes would focus more on the comfort aspect to this hobby. Nobody wants to wear a birdhouse.
Similarly..if I buy a Lamborghini for some wild road adventures, I am not expecting a sandpaper dildo as a seat.
I’ve heard a fair few supposed HD600/650 killers in my day, and apart from a better bass (subbass) response, I still prefer my Sennies.
The comfort is brilliant and I also prefer the mids and treble over something like the Para or the MM-500.
I wish newer headphone makes would focus more on the comfort aspect to this hobby. Nobody wants to wear a birdhouse.
Similarly..if I buy a Lamborghini for some wild road adventures, I am not expecting a sandpaper dildo as a seat.
I have tested these headphones yesterday with this signal chain:
Losless tracks in ableton live > SSL2 cranked to the max on it's monitor output (not headphone output) > Magni Heretic on it's highest 3rd gain setting.
On most (but not all) of the tracks I preferred how PARA sounded without EQ. I used AutoEQ presets from Oratory and Superreview. Only on modern punchy metal tracks EQ was required to add proper bass response and treble.
I tried to get the distortion out of the headphones by cranking certain frequencies, and I could not make them distort. When I boosted the 35Hz area to the maximum before digital clipping, I was able to turn the amp up so much that it was constantly going into the protection shutoff mode, yet distortion was nowhere to be heard.
I would buy this straight away if it weren't for comfort. Clamping force is very low, when I shook my head the headphones wanted to fall off. No matter how I finessed the very stiff yokes in every direction the headphones would not clamp. In addition to this the standard pads have a smaller rectangular cutout in the center which was touching my ears (and they are on a smaller side). Plus, the pads are very shallow, and even if I did press the cups into my face enough to get a somewhat good seal, my ears were touching the plates covering the drivers.
Weight was actually OK, the headband distributes it well. I listened to them for around 30 minutes and did not feel discomfort from weight, only from ears touching the insides of the HP.
Given how millable these are with EQ I was considering to maybe swap to some overly thick angled suede/veloud pads from dekoni for exmaple and just fix the FR with EQ, but it is a risky endeavour without trying first, given the pads shipped are another 100 USD on top of the headphone price.
Losless tracks in ableton live > SSL2 cranked to the max on it's monitor output (not headphone output) > Magni Heretic on it's highest 3rd gain setting.
On most (but not all) of the tracks I preferred how PARA sounded without EQ. I used AutoEQ presets from Oratory and Superreview. Only on modern punchy metal tracks EQ was required to add proper bass response and treble.
I tried to get the distortion out of the headphones by cranking certain frequencies, and I could not make them distort. When I boosted the 35Hz area to the maximum before digital clipping, I was able to turn the amp up so much that it was constantly going into the protection shutoff mode, yet distortion was nowhere to be heard.
I would buy this straight away if it weren't for comfort. Clamping force is very low, when I shook my head the headphones wanted to fall off. No matter how I finessed the very stiff yokes in every direction the headphones would not clamp. In addition to this the standard pads have a smaller rectangular cutout in the center which was touching my ears (and they are on a smaller side). Plus, the pads are very shallow, and even if I did press the cups into my face enough to get a somewhat good seal, my ears were touching the plates covering the drivers.
Weight was actually OK, the headband distributes it well. I listened to them for around 30 minutes and did not feel discomfort from weight, only from ears touching the insides of the HP.
Given how millable these are with EQ I was considering to maybe swap to some overly thick angled suede/veloud pads from dekoni for exmaple and just fix the FR with EQ, but it is a risky endeavour without trying first, given the pads shipped are another 100 USD on top of the headphone price.
