Moondrop Lab

[mc.god]

Assuming Moondrop data is actual measurements, RAY and MAY are indeed the same IEMs, with a different shell. This also means RAYS should be perfectly usable as a general purpose IEM, like MAY (MAY is actually a pretty good IEM IMHO...) and the gaming credentials--low latency, noise-cancelling mic.--are just extras.

They seem indeed the same analog basis, different default dsp eq though

 

[Earfonia]

Has anyone tried MOONDROP FreeDSP PRO?

MOONDROP FREEDSP PRO Headphones Cable | MOONDROP Official Website

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I use MOONDROP FreeDSP and not very satisfied with the rough integer level EQ adjustment. I'm curious if MOONDROP FreeDSP PRO has improved the parametric equalizer and allow 0.1 dB adjustment.

I do feel the asking price is too expensive. At that price Fiio KA17 (that I have and use) offers better features and 3x 10 bands custom PEQ saved in the DAC.

 

[markanini]

Has anyone tried MOONDROP FreeDSP PRO?

MOONDROP FREEDSP PRO Headphones Cable | MOONDROP Official Website

moondroplab.com

I use MOONDROP FreeDSP and not very satisfied with the rough integer level EQ adjustment. I'm curious if MOONDROP FreeDSP PRO has improved the parametric equalizer and allow 0.1 dB adjustment.

I do feel the asking price is too expensive. At that price Fiio KA17 (that I have and use) offers better features and 3x 10 bands custom PEQ saved in the DAC.

I agree the asking price it too much. But the web-based EQ interface, also used with he Moondrop Rays, looks like a big improvement over the previous app-based interface.

 

[Matias]

Wow, 130 usd for the Free DSP Pro, that is a steep price...

For 38 usd we already have Tanchjim Stargate II with 43131 DAC and DSP, same power and similar specs. Plus ADC (mic support).

Tanchjim Stargate II: DSP CS43131 dongle

Got my Tanchjim Stargate II dongle today. It is a CS43131 based dongle with built in DSP, and has mic support for 38 USD. I have been playing with the PEQ in the Tanchjim app and seems to be working fine. It saves the PEQ to the dongle so it works without the app later. So far so good! This...

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[Clark_]

Hey, is there any way by which I can add fine volume controls to my dac/amp? I'm using Moondrop MoonRiver 2, I tried over 8 different releases of Link App, including newer version such as 2.0.x and older version 1.3.x. I even tried reaching out to Moondrop but seems like they don't care. Every app is recognizing MoonRiver on every device but nothing applies using their Link app. Whether its about lowering volume, changing filters or just adjusting the gain, not even a single things applies. Dawn seems to work fine, everything seems to apply on it. I like MoonRiver quite a bit, though I don't use it much because of this issue.

 

[Chagall]

Gotta love opening Audiophonics and finding two surprise headphone releases I didn’t know were coming!

MOONDROP PARA II
Headphones Open-Back Planar Magnetic FDT Ø100mm 106dB 9Ω 20Hz-42kHz
539,00 EUR

MOONDROP HORIZON
Open-Back Dynamic Headphone 32 Ohm 109dB 20Hz-34kHz
219,00 EUR

 

[Heinzfi]

Dawn Pro 2 got an update, it has DSP now and a web app too.
An interesting option for those who prefer something more sturdy, a detachable cable, and volume control.

 

[Matias]

Wow, 130 usd for the Free DSP Pro, that is a steep price...

For 38 usd we already have Tanchjim Stargate II with 43131 DAC and DSP, same power and similar specs. Plus ADC (mic support).

Tanchjim Stargate II: DSP CS43131 dongle

Got my Tanchjim Stargate II dongle today. It is a CS43131 based dongle with built in DSP, and has mic support for 38 USD. I have been playing with the PEQ in the Tanchjim app and seems to be working fine. It saves the PEQ to the dongle so it works without the app later. So far so good! This...

www.audiosciencereview.com

Now Moondrop has FreeDSP Mini as a CS43198 dongle for 34 usd on sale. Not bad! Finally competitive.

MOONDROP FreeDSP Mini CS43198 Portable USB DAC/AMP

shenzhenaudio.com: professional headphone, earphone, amplifier, dac, decoder, hifi player, cable supermarket. you will find good price here.

shenzhenaudio.com

 

[Somafunk]

Now Moondrop has FreeDSP Mini as a CS43198 dongle for 34 usd on sale. Not bad! Finally competitive.

MOONDROP FreeDSP Mini CS43198 Portable USB DAC/AMP

shenzhenaudio.com: professional headphone, earphone, amplifier, dac, decoder, hifi player, cable supermarket. you will find good price here.

shenzhenaudio.com

Only for android users though so apple/iOS don’t buy it

 

[DarkSpy]

The product description specifically says that you can use a Web App "if your mobile phone system is not compatible with the App for tunning".

 

[Somafunk]

The product description specifically says that you can use a Web App "if your mobile phone system is not compatible with the App for tunning".

That’s a hassle and entails plugging into a computer though.

If Qudelix can build an iOS app that is absolutely rock stable and very functional in use then there’s no excuse

 

[staticV3]

If Qudelix can build an iOS app that is absolutely rock stable and very functional in use then there’s no excuse

Except there kind of is as Apple blocks/regulates HID communication via USB.

If you want to configure external hardware on iOS, then there are only three options:

1. Buy an Apple license and put an Apple MFi chip into each and every unit you produce
2. Put Bluetooth/WiFi into your device and communicate via that
3. Develop a novel comms protocol that skirts Apple's restrictions, like RME did with their ADI Remote App.

None of these is super realistic for a product like the FreeDSP Mini and a manufacturer like Moondrop.

And all this nonsense only because Apple wants to earn extra with their MFi program.

Any other OS and you can use license-free and easy to implement HID communication.

 

[CedarX]

If Qudelix can build an iOS app that is absolutely rock stable and very functional in use then there’s no excuse

Just to add on what @staticV3 said above: the iOS version of the Qudelix app only works through BT: you can configure a Q5K on a iPhone through BT, then the settings will be applied when you’re playing tracks from your iPhone through USB.

What Moondrop is doing is no different, except that FreeDSP Mini has no BT chip… So, you have to configure FreeDSP Mini with an Android phone or WebApp through USB. Then the settings carry over and work with an iOS device. You just can’t configure FreeDSP Mini on iOS… due to Apple restrictions. Not much Moondrop can do about it.

 

[Matias]

Dawn Pro 2 got an update, it has DSP now and a web app too.
An interesting option for those who prefer something more sturdy, a detachable cable, and volume control.

Dawn Pro 2 now available at SZA for 60 usd. As expected excellent features, measurements and DSP.

MOONDROP DAWN PRO 2 Dual CS43198 Portable USB DAC/AMP

shenzhenaudio.com: professional headphone, earphone, amplifier, dac, decoder, hifi player, cable supermarket. you will find good price here.

shenzhenaudio.com

 

[Curupira]

Dawn Pro 2 now available at SZA for 60 usd. As expected excellent features, measurements and DSP.

MOONDROP DAWN PRO 2 Dual CS43198 Portable USB DAC/AMP

shenzhenaudio.com: professional headphone, earphone, amplifier, dac, decoder, hifi player, cable supermarket. you will find good price here.

shenzhenaudio.com

Shame that they went with the same design.

If nothing has changed, the volume buttons are held only by the pressure switches themselves, which are fixed to the PCB only by the microsoldering spots. In other words, a solid block of aluminium is held only by two 1mm lead dots. My volume buttoms, on the dawn pro OG, already came off, and the contact points on the PCB are so tiny that I lack the means and skill the resolder the thing. And I known I'm not the only person that suffered from this.

If it weren't for the UAC hardware volume control, it'd be a standalone DAC with fixed output level at whatever I was listening at when it came off.

Below, these points are the only things that hold the metal volume structure in place.

 

[staticV3]

Shame that they went with the same design.

If nothing has changed, the volume buttons are held only by the pressure switches themselves, which are fixed to the PCB only by the microsoldering spots. In other words, a solid block of aluminium is held only by two 1mm lead dots. My volume buttoms, on the dawn pro OG, already came off, and the contact points on the PCB are so tiny that I lack the means and skill the resolder the thing. And I known I'm not the only person that suffered from this.

If it weren't for the UAC hardware volume control, it'd be a standalone DAC with fixed output level at whatever I was listening at when it came off.

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Below, these points are the only things that hold the metal volume structure in place.

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Those really ought to be through-hole

 

[Curupira]

Those really ought to be through-hole

They are. The problem IMO is relying on such tiny contact points to hold the metal volume buttons in place (they're 1cm solid metal deep). Once they get worn out, through anchor tension and use, the switches lean back and you can't use the volume anymore.

 

[muza_1]

New LAN II, comes in two flavors.

https://shenzhenaudio.com/collectio...p-lan-ii-10mm-dynamic-driver-in-ear-headphone

 

[solawind]

Now Moondrop has FreeDSP Mini as a CS43198 dongle for 34 usd on sale. Not bad! Finally competitive.

Does anyone know what are differences between FreeDSP mini and PRO (except the cable) ?

 

[CedarX]

Does anyone know what are differences between FreeDSP mini and PRO (except the cable) ?

I was waiting for an informed reply... My guess is that they are closely related and use the same chip! FreeDSP Pro incorporates a very nice IEM cable, but to me, it's not worth the price premium over FreeDSP Mini.