Robert-Hifi
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The design of Revel is not my thing. Glossy finish and white drivers.
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MoFi SourcePoint 888 Review and Measurements by Erin
Robert-Hifi
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True, but seeing it as a long term investment ups the ante and expectations. Also due to the price.
Since it's a lot of money for better sound and it would be the most expensive piece of audio/video gear that I've ever bought by a long margin.
The most I've ever spend on audio/video equipment is a Sony VPL-HW55ES projector for 2400 euro.
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I have seen this offer as well and have been very very tempted.
Not sure if I need new speakers though.
My dynaudio x38 will go as low as the mofi and I am happy with them.
Must resist the "upgrade" urge.
Not sure if I need new speakers though.
My dynaudio x38 will go as low as the mofi and I am happy with them.
Must resist the "upgrade" urge.
Rõlnnbacke
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Yes, they are expensive and you probably know the dutch saying 'goede raad is duur' (good advice is expensive) - when facing a difficult decision, it's often hard to find a good advice. 'Raad' can also mean something like a plan, with sayings like about: 'comes time, come plans' or 'the night brings plans'.
Well it's 12:20 AM in our country and I already wish you a good night sleep. You probably still can decide tomorrow.
Yeah but that finish is hideous.wow - as low as $2500 to $3,000 each in USA.
Robert-Hifi
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What is your subjective listening experience of the 888's with the X4800H in terms of bass tightness? Do you feel the bass is tight enough or a bit loose?
Two reviews (Hi-Fi News and Hi-Fi Voice) seem to suggest that the 888's bass is not perfectly taught and somewhat rounded/soft, more pulsating than punchy.
Bass is extremely room dependent, I suspect EQ has not yet reached those magazine’s reviewers.
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Rõlnnbacke
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This is a description of deep bass, which this speakers easily deliver, while most speakers need a subwoofer for that.
Robert-Hifi
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You think it's deep bass gives that impression? If a loudspeaker lacks deep bass it appears tighter?
And I was wrong about the Hi-Fi Voice review, I meant the review on Audio.com.pl.
MoFi Sourcepoint 888
Najnowsza konstrukcja MoFi, chociaż wyraźnie droższa od wcześniejszych, ma szansę na większą popularność. To pełnowymiarowa, wydajna ...
audio.com.pl
Rõlnnbacke
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Yes and iirc this is normal. Of course there is the room, but those peaks are more like just boomy and disturbing.
The lower the tone, often the 'rounder', 'softer', 'warmer', 'fatter', smoother, but then in a pleasant way! [Recording(!)] room reverb probably plays a role as well.
Maybe an expert can shed a light on this.
What I’ve learned that if you don’t do anything about your room acoustics speaker systems with true sub bass capabilities migth give the impression of being soft or slow, that's a consequence off activation of a lot of room modes and resonances .
At really low frequencies you can’t separate the room and the speaker they are together so you can’t really ”hear” the speakers own capacity ?
Some EQ or room treatments are needed .
So reviewer just plonking down sub bass capable speakers without fixing thier room modes simply can’t judge the product ?
Edit : I’m no expert sorry
At really low frequencies you can’t separate the room and the speaker they are together so you can’t really ”hear” the speakers own capacity ?
Some EQ or room treatments are needed .
So reviewer just plonking down sub bass capable speakers without fixing thier room modes simply can’t judge the product ?
Edit : I’m no expert sorry
Rõlnnbacke
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A quote from the 'hifi news' review @Robert-Hifi mentioned:
"Generally, I am a proponent of using room correction below 300Hz, something offered by the Lyngdorf amp’s RoomPerfect system, and with these MoFi speakers it’s certainly worth considering if you’re installing them into a smaller or even medium-sized space."
He doesn't say explicitly that he uses it for this review.
Hm. I can't find any such assertion in either review. Instead this from Hifi Voice:
Sounds like the opposite. "Nimble" suggests fast and tight.
Robert-Hifi
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True, but in the FWD review (also from the same reviewer, Jamie Biesemans) which is translated for the most part for the Hi-Fi News review he does mention:A quote from the 'hifi news' review @Robert-Hifi mentioned:
"Generally, I am a proponent of using room correction below 300Hz, something offered by the Lyngdorf amp’s RoomPerfect system, and with these MoFi speakers it’s certainly worth considering if you’re installing them into a smaller or even medium-sized space."
He doesn't say explicitly that he uses it for this review.
"Even at high volume this went without any problems with a Lyngdorf TDAI-3400, although adjustment with RoomPerfect added a bit of tightness."
Review: MoFi Electronics SourcePoint 888 - MoFi neemt grote stap
De SourcePoint 888 is de derde luidspreker die de gerespecteerde ontwerper Andrew Jones voor MoFi Electronics ontwerpt. Lees onze test.
fwd.nl
Robert-Hifi
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I mixed up the Hi-Fi Voice and Audio.com.pl review, but I was referring to the Audio.com.pl review.
MoFi Sourcepoint 888
Najnowsza konstrukcja MoFi, chociaż wyraźnie droższa od wcześniejszych, ma szansę na większą popularność. To pełnowymiarowa, wydajna ...
audio.com.pl
I find others subjective experiences including reviewers basically non transferable when you get into details ? Har dot second guess?
Hi All,
This is my first post on this forum. Hopefully this is an okay thread to post my thoughts:
I bought a pair of Mofi Sourcepoint 888s. I've had them for 3 weeks.
Set Up:
I'm running them with a Yamaha R-N2000A in a heavily treated room (I am a recording artist and this is my recording space). I have all sorts of bass traps. The room is 15.5 x 35 feet with 9 foot ceilings. I mostly run Qobuz. I do not use any of the fancy features on the Yamaha - no room correction, no loudness alteration, no EQ. Not needed in my case.
I positioned the speakers about 5 feet from the back wall and about 2 feet from the side walls pointed into the longer direction of the room.
I listen to a lot of music from the 70s - Steely Dan, Doobie Brothers, and also a lot of classical music. I love Beethoven, Brahms, Bach, Chopin. Solo piano, Symphonies, Solo violin, and classical guitar. I love modern high quality classical recordings but I also love an amazing performance and sometimes you go to vintage recordings for that: Glenn Gould Goldberg Variations, Minneapolis Symphony playing the 1812 overture, Rubinstein playing Chopin or the Brahms piano quintet, Rudolf Serkin and the Guranieri quartet playing Schumann or Brahms Piano quartets, etc. I also dabble in jazz and modern funk/jazz.
The Good:
I am extremely pleased with the overall sound quality. There is no operating noise even at high volume. The headroom is immense. I am not observing any need to EQ or adjust.
The 888s have exactly what I was looking for: Excellent detail and clarity while not being fatiguing. They also look nice.
The 888s excel for music from the dead room era of recording IMO. Some for those recordings are just stunning IMO, and the 888s do them justice. The old Steely Dan Recordings are unbelievable. Pink Floyd too.
I love the 888s on modern classical music recordings in general.
I love this system on modern jazz recordings.
The Bad:
1. My speakers were delivered to my house with one of them being damaged. The shipping company wrapped the boxes in trash bag material. When the trash bag material was removed, one of the boxes was all shredded and a corner of the speaker was chipped off. The gash is about an inch tall and a centimeter deep. I realize this may not be specifically Mofi's fault, but I bought them directly and Mofi chose the shipping company. I am not happy about that.
2. Contrary to some of the overselling that the "influencers" are doing, the 888 is NOT a full range speaker. While the bass it does have is healthy and detailed, it does not extend all the way down to the lower ends of bass that I am listening for. I added my KEF 400b which only gets down to 26 Hz and it adds quite a bit range-wise. I set the crossover slightly over the lowest setting on the KEF (40Hz). When paired with the sub, I am extremely happy with the overall sound. I believe I was able to blend it and have it in phase through careful room positioning. It sounds natural.
3. Not sure I would recommend the 888s for listeners who are interested in Metal. I listen to Metal sometimes and these speakers just do not elevate that genre the way they elevate recordings that have more headroom. If I'm choosing a stereo to listen to Metallica, Children of Bodom, Rivers of Nihil, etc., I think I might choose something else.
Verdict:
Overall, I heavily endorse these speakers. The sound is fabulous - and that is by far my most important criteria. I do recommend a sub to be paired with them - contrary to some of the reviews. While the 888s get low, they don't go all the way to where I need it to be. I was recently at Capital Audio fest. My favorite speakers there were YG Acoustics Hailey 3s paired with a Stella amplifier. Well, that was a $100K system. I feel like the Yamaha/Mofi/KEF pairing is a tremendous value compared to those, and reasonably close in performance.
This is my first post on this forum. Hopefully this is an okay thread to post my thoughts:
I bought a pair of Mofi Sourcepoint 888s. I've had them for 3 weeks.
Set Up:
I'm running them with a Yamaha R-N2000A in a heavily treated room (I am a recording artist and this is my recording space). I have all sorts of bass traps. The room is 15.5 x 35 feet with 9 foot ceilings. I mostly run Qobuz. I do not use any of the fancy features on the Yamaha - no room correction, no loudness alteration, no EQ. Not needed in my case.
I positioned the speakers about 5 feet from the back wall and about 2 feet from the side walls pointed into the longer direction of the room.
I listen to a lot of music from the 70s - Steely Dan, Doobie Brothers, and also a lot of classical music. I love Beethoven, Brahms, Bach, Chopin. Solo piano, Symphonies, Solo violin, and classical guitar. I love modern high quality classical recordings but I also love an amazing performance and sometimes you go to vintage recordings for that: Glenn Gould Goldberg Variations, Minneapolis Symphony playing the 1812 overture, Rubinstein playing Chopin or the Brahms piano quintet, Rudolf Serkin and the Guranieri quartet playing Schumann or Brahms Piano quartets, etc. I also dabble in jazz and modern funk/jazz.
The Good:
I am extremely pleased with the overall sound quality. There is no operating noise even at high volume. The headroom is immense. I am not observing any need to EQ or adjust.
The 888s have exactly what I was looking for: Excellent detail and clarity while not being fatiguing. They also look nice.
The 888s excel for music from the dead room era of recording IMO. Some for those recordings are just stunning IMO, and the 888s do them justice. The old Steely Dan Recordings are unbelievable. Pink Floyd too.
I love the 888s on modern classical music recordings in general.
I love this system on modern jazz recordings.
The Bad:
1. My speakers were delivered to my house with one of them being damaged. The shipping company wrapped the boxes in trash bag material. When the trash bag material was removed, one of the boxes was all shredded and a corner of the speaker was chipped off. The gash is about an inch tall and a centimeter deep. I realize this may not be specifically Mofi's fault, but I bought them directly and Mofi chose the shipping company. I am not happy about that.
2. Contrary to some of the overselling that the "influencers" are doing, the 888 is NOT a full range speaker. While the bass it does have is healthy and detailed, it does not extend all the way down to the lower ends of bass that I am listening for. I added my KEF 400b which only gets down to 26 Hz and it adds quite a bit range-wise. I set the crossover slightly over the lowest setting on the KEF (40Hz). When paired with the sub, I am extremely happy with the overall sound. I believe I was able to blend it and have it in phase through careful room positioning. It sounds natural.
3. Not sure I would recommend the 888s for listeners who are interested in Metal. I listen to Metal sometimes and these speakers just do not elevate that genre the way they elevate recordings that have more headroom. If I'm choosing a stereo to listen to Metallica, Children of Bodom, Rivers of Nihil, etc., I think I might choose something else.
Verdict:
Overall, I heavily endorse these speakers. The sound is fabulous - and that is by far my most important criteria. I do recommend a sub to be paired with them - contrary to some of the reviews. While the 888s get low, they don't go all the way to where I need it to be. I was recently at Capital Audio fest. My favorite speakers there were YG Acoustics Hailey 3s paired with a Stella amplifier. Well, that was a $100K system. I feel like the Yamaha/Mofi/KEF pairing is a tremendous value compared to those, and reasonably close in performance.
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Did you report the damage to MOFI and the shipping company? Mofi should replace it.
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