There have been numerous examples over the years of ‘golden-eared’ subjectophiles swearing that over-priced tweaky components clearly sound better only to find out that the person running the comparison had tricked them and they were listening to cheap well-designed solid-state the whole time. The wails of outrage this would elicit were very similar to the howls coming out over the past few weeks.If digital is so bad as some claim, the golden ears would have heard the incorrigible sound immediately and started complaining and wanting refunds long before now. Knowing only the sound was awful without knowing why. The fact this didn't happen indicates digital usage during the Mofi process is likely un-hearable by golden or other ears.
An unintentional massive blind test in the heart of subjectivists holiest of holies analog world.
Duplicate threads merged. Thanks @DonH56 for pointing this out!I got sucked into this rabbit hole on Youtube, and I can't stop laughing. Basically it's coming out that MOFI has been using a digital step in their remastering since at least 2015, while all these analog "audiophile" snobs have been paying $130 per remastered, reissued LP thinking they're...www.audiosciencereview.com
There's a link to Mobile Fidelity's response on page 7 or 8.
I quite frequently have found jazz albums on streaming and liked them so much that I ordered the vinyl remaster, just to have the experience (quite different from streaming or playing a file) of placing the album on the turntable and sitting back with the album cover to read the liner notes while enjoying the music. Sometimes the overall sound of the album isn't very different at all between the streaming version and the vinyl, but the overall experience is vastly different.
It seems that for fetishists, it is. Perhaps the quality of the record is excellent, but quality of the sound itself is not the problem.What’s the fuss about they use proven transparent methods of music production ?
It would be worse if they eq and mixed in the analog domain ?
Oh my goodness. That is absolutely delicious.
Mikey Fremer does not come off well in that article!I didn't see this posted yet.
I don't, but can the typical laptop ADC record DSD or do you need better quality equipment? I mean it is a show of extra effort (hopefully translating to more care) on the part of the label, not that it is necessarily better quality wise.No reason to think DSD users are any better than anyone else.
I'm not so sure they "lied". Perhaps some falsehoods in some support emails to individual patrons that people have been sending around after the fact, but their published info has been careful. Certainly they let the golden ears believe all that, and they did nothing to dissuade. I think they are guilty of some dishonesty, but viewing their offense in the context of the "audiophile" world in general and all the various cons at play, I view their offense as a minor one. Largely because they have actually been delivering the goods, providing great recordings, and I am convinced they have been using digital not to cut corners but to deliver the best finished product they can.They lied!
The high price of their products was based on the big fat lie of their supossedly all-analog chain, from master tape to the final vynil pressing.
I will be happy to hear anything in M Fremer’s age. I have sore throat after needing to shout at my father for 2 hours, as he would not admit, that he needs heairng aid, being 72.Re: Fremer on the MoFi debacle - all those years spent "knowing" that he could hold the truth in his hands. He could show people that truth and have them listen to it. He could "prove" that this was the one truth.
Then to learn that the truth had been compromised and was indeed an outright lie, that had to hurt. One can only imagine the shear horror he felt discovering that the red vs. blue pill decision was irrelevant, and ultimately he had no choice but to accept an "obscene" reality: there was no spoon to begin with.
Yes, they did!I'm not so sure they "lied".
Yes, carefuly packaged lie.their published info has been careful.
I didn't say it is inflated price, I said they charged that price on basis of the big fat lie of all-analog chain from master tape to the vinyl pressing.As far as their prices being inflated, meh. Most of that is aftermarket speculators. Selling such limited runs, which is part of their agreements with the license holders, $100/LP is not that crazy given the quality they deliver compared to other available versions.