FWIW I have Raspberry PI CD transport w/ HDCD decode to USB of Flex HTx. So even with HDCD peak extension and no input offset I have not heard any audible clipping or distortion even at max volume. HDCD are from Reference Recordings.
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miniDSP Tide16 - Holy Grail with 16 Channel Atmos/DTS:X, high SINAD
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It is good that it can be addressed, but this should not require human intervention.
Here is a post by @John_Siau addressing inter-sample overages that generated by the fixed rate conversion in the MiniDSP that requires -3 dB of attenuation.
DSP Measurements and Rising Noise Floor
And an updated summary table based on tests run so far: Michael
Roon provides an indicator when inter-sample clipping occurs. By observation, this occurs quite often during sample-rate conversion.
It would be nice if there where for the Tide16 to detect and report possible overs.
The over-sample error is created by the normal operation of the product so the product should at the very least default to configuration that stops the problem from occurring.
This is yet another reason that AVPs need testing with processing engaged to get some indication of SINAD/Performance in normal use.
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Almost as always, auto would be nice, but I don't really see the need, for probably most people. I have a minisDSP HT and a HTx, both allows input volume offset adjustments, so I just set it to -1.5 to -3.0 dB and that's done, no need to worry about detecting ISP. The "auto" feature you mentioned could be useful for someone who cannot afford to lower the input volume by at all, in my opinion, if someone has such an issue, it is better to get higher gain downstream instead of relying on higher gain preamp/dac stage.
Toslink is audio input from source to Tide16. AES is digital audio output to active speakers.
Avoid extra audio conversion and keep audio signal digital when using active speakers.
Yes for adding more digital outputs in general.
But both TOSlink and AES have that advantage, right?
XLR cable is a lot sturdier than fiber optic. A lot of active speakers do not have toslink input as well.
So the latter just fall apart in a stable home listening context?
> A lot of active speakers do not have toslink input as well.
Out of all the ones with digital inputs (which is what we're talking about) isn't AES much less common than S/PDIF
Does Coax have the same fragility issue as optical?
I'm sincerely trying to learn why AES is so desirable, not just being argumentative
The opposite is true ... active speakers tend to have XLR input whether its analog balanced or AES (Digital). At least the good ones
OK my mistake, that explains it then. I thought maybe they had a technical reason.
thanks
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The type of speaker that HT enthusiasts would want to connect via SPDIF includes the likes of JBL 708P, Neumann KH150, D&D 8C, Kii Three, Genelec 8341A.
In this category, you'll have a hard time finding a Toslink input.
Toslink input is most common on <$500 2.0/2.1 multimedia speakers from Klipsch, Edifier, Kanto, Audio Engine etc.
But I can't imagine that someone would want to hook one of those up to a $4000 AVP
So these are all active speakers?
Do they tend to have AES or Coax digital?
Can you think of advantages of AES other than being so commonly implemented on high end active speakers?
There is no signal advantage. Digital is digital and XLR cables are so common it's used for basically everything. You can trip over it and it's not going to disconnect where as with RCA or fiber optic it disconnects easily.
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Naturally yes. How would you connect a passive speaker via SPDIF?
Well, I think you can find a umik2 second hand fairly easily and get to pay sligthly less in tariffs.