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MiniDSP SHD Dirac Live Rivals

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The only major difference, aprt form price, between the solution I proposed (and that I'm using) and miniDSP SHD is that with miniDSP SHD you are getting both hardware components (comp and DAC) in a single housing.
The minidsp also adds analogue and other sources into the mix neatly, this is it's main advantage over a PC based solution.
 

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The minidsp also adds analogue and other sources into the mix neatly, this is it's main advantage over a PC based solution.
True. Although my guess would be that most folks stream music either from NAS or from the Net these days.
 

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Yes, in probably thousands of studios all over the world. :) I have two Genelec SAM sets myself (8331+7350 and 8340) and the GLM software works flawlessly. Here are a few reviews for you:

https://www.soundonsound.com/reviews/genelec-ones
https://www.pro-tools-expert.com/vi...ones-studio-monitors-re-writing-the-rule-book
https://www.musictech.net/reviews/genelec-the-ones-review/
From what I can see none of these 3 reviews contains a control measurement taken after the correction to verify the results. Or..?
 

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The minidsp also adds analogue and other sources into the mix neatly, this is it's main advantage over a PC based solution.
Exactly. There are plenty of "back of the rack" solutions available (even more if you DIY), but precious few all-in-one solutions for 2-3 sources and DSP "for all" - at least in the under $2K price range. DAC/Streamer/Pre's are available for most budgets - but paired with even "lite" room correction capabilities? Quite a bit more rare.
 

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True. Although my guess would be that most folks stream music either from NAS or from the Net these days.
Amongst people who should be using some form of room correction, I'm not so sure that's true.
 

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I totally agree, up to a point. In very small rooms the crap from room modes occurs at such high frequencies that successful equalization becomes very localized at one listening position. In those situations my personal preference is for less bass output. But otherwise, yes absolutely.
 

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From what I can see none of these 3 reviews contains a control measurement taken after the correction to verify the results. Or..?
GLM shows you the corrections immediatelly after the analysis. Corrections are always room dependant so I am not 100% sure what you mean by 'control measurements'? Here's a pic of my 8331+7350 setup and it's GLM corrections. My room has a nasty -15dB drop around 80Hz which the sub fills pretty ok.

glm.jpg
 

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I just received my SHD a week ago. I also just rearranged my living room and went on vacation so I haven't used Dirac with it yet. It replaced the miniDSP DDRC-24 that I was using before, the plugin interface is identical for both units. MiniDSP just released Dirac Live 2.0 support for their devices and I'm eager to try that out soon. They also now ship the SHD with a wifi usb dongle so you don't need a wired connection for streaming. I learned all of this from a newsletter they sent out two weeks ago that also mentioned, "While not ready for primetime, we're indeed actively working for an exciting new streaming option for the SHD series. Once again a free upgrade. Stay tuned!" I have my fingers crossed that this new streaming option will be native Roon support.

MiniDSP doesn't provide any draw characteristics, but as the whole thing runs on a 12V DC wallwart...
Actually the full size SHD is mains powered with a standard switched/fused IEC power entry module. The switch on this module is the only way to turn the unit on and off so I agree with @dwkdnvr that the lack of a 12V trigger is a shame. Fortunately the SHD does not turn on with a violent pop at the outputs like the cheaper miniDSP products. It comes on a few seconds after being powered with a click from the output relay, like standard amps and preamps have. So I just use my power conditioner to turn the unit on and off which works perfectly as it remembers its previous settings. I usually use the unit with a logitech harmony hub which had a profile for the SHD that works just fine. The only issue is those few seconds of delay that the SHD has upon startup as the harmony hub was trying to send input commands to it during the delay which of course didn't work. Usually you would fix this issue by adding a power on delay in the harmony hub set up but because the hub doesn't actually turn on the unit, this isn't an option. So I had to remedy the issue by adding a delay to the harmony activities that include the SHD and now it works as expected.

Upgrading from the DDRC-24 brought some very noticeable improvements. First of all I have a screen which is very nice. Second of all I can now connect all of my sources including a tuner and a balanced output phono preamp for when I'm feeling low-fi. My open AV shelves look much better with this big black box with a screen rather than a tiny box with wires and a blaring blue led coming out of the front. It's very nice to be able to switch presets on the fly without a computer connected, although the SHD does mute and load for a second or two between presets. And it feels good knowing my balanced input amplifier is being fed a balanced output. Of course I can hear a difference with things sounding just a bit more detailed and refined but the difference is so slight and the investment so great that I would bet this is due to placebo.
 

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GLM shows you the corrections immediatelly after the analysis. Corrections are always room dependant so I am not 100% sure what you mean by 'control measurements'? Here's a pic of my 8331+7350 setup and it's GLM corrections. My room has a nasty -15dB drop around 80Hz which the sub fills pretty ok.

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Control measurement is measurement taken with correction filters active independently of the software you did correction with. In other words, you should take spatial measruement with REW from your LP to see what are real results of room correction. In ideal situation you would also have taken initial measurement before correction so you can compare frequency and phase response before and after correction. That is the only way to check the quality of the job that automated room correction SW did.
 
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