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MiniDSP Flex HTx

Have you even bothered to look into this or are you just spouting off? Maybe do a little research first.

KODI absolutely does break Atmos down into its constituent parts (TruHD + Metadata) and can and does pass the multichannel bitstream on my PC every damn day.

For everything to work properly you need to have the PC connected to the AVR/TV with at least HDMI 2.0a and in my case I need to have my Denon AVR selected as the audio device in KODI specifically using WASAPI and not Directsound. If I were to use Directsound it passes a busted down AC3 remux instead of LPCM.
Finally it's clear, you need to know what you're talking about: what you talk about is pass through where the avr is doing the decoding, not kodi. As i said before Kodi does not do lossless atmos decoding, not does any other mediaplayer (apart from paid for Dolby software).
 
Finally it's clear, you need to know what you're talking about: what you talk about is pass through where the avr is doing the decoding, not kodi. As i said before Kodi does not do lossless atmos decoding, not does any other mediaplayer (apart from paid for Dolby software).
Again, wrong. Pass thru passes Atmos, I can do that if I want, what I’m doing does not, it decodes the container and the AVR receives simply “MULTI CHANNEL”.

Do you even have a similar setup, or just talking out of your ass?
 
Just looked on the KODI forums. It decodes Atmos and sends the lossless DD+ or TruHD stream out as 7.1PCM minus the Atmos “bits”, which I said earlier I don’t care about. And which also wouldn’t matter to anyone using an HTx.
 
It is my understanding that Atmos is encoded with metadata and delivered in the 7 base channels so that a non-Atmos decoder sees 7.1 and ignores the metadata.
Essentially, the 7.1 remains untouched, nothing is lost, but, technically, it is not decoded.

- Rich
 
It is my understanding that Atmos is encoded with metadata and delivered in the 7 base channels so that a non-Atmos decoder sees 7.1 and ignores the metadata.
Essentially, the 7.1 remains untouched, nothing is lost, but, technically, it is not decoded.

- Rich
Well, then everything I said still stands. My setup can either “pass” Atmos to my receiver or I can have it decode it in which case it passes to the X3700 as Multi Channel PCM. A quick google will confirm what I’m saying about KODI, assuming you have the latest version and are using hardware capable of the task.

Not sure why the other guy is arguing with me.
 
Maybe he's arguing regarding your fast/loose definition of the word "decode"???
Good golly.

And none of this has anything to do with the capabilities (or lack thereof) of the miniDSP Flex HTx.

Dave Reite.
 
Maybe he's arguing regarding your fast/loose definition of the word "decode"???
Good golly.

And none of this has anything to do with the capabilities (or lack thereof) of the miniDSP Flex HTx.

Dave Reite.
The fact remains that Atmos, just like DTS-X is a “container”, and KODI can decode that container into 7.1 lossless PCM without stepping down to compressed AC3.

This line of conversation only came about because this is something the HTx can’t do, and I opined that if it could, I’d be able to use one as an HTP.

Anyway, I’m gonna leave this thread alone.
 
There's no issue with minidsp DAC/DSPs in general. This pops and clicks issue is only with the HT Flex, earc input when using an HD Fury eARC extractor. Supposedly this extractor works without clicks and pops but misses some other video features of the HD Fury.
I have that extractor and am using Kodi to decode. I do still get clicks and pops:

  • Music/2 Channel: If I hit "stop" it will occasionally pop. If I hit "pause" first, and then "stop" it doesn't seem to pop.
  • Movies/7.1 Channel: Either pausing or stopping can cause a pop. When I look at the MiniDSP Device Console it shows "eARC" then "none" then "eARC" when I stop 7.1. My guess is the pop may be caused by the HTx "refinding" the eARC.
In a perfect world Kodi would always "output" 7.1 and would just "play" 2 of the channels for music; but I haven't found a way to force this.
 
It is my understanding that Atmos is encoded with metadata and delivered in the 7 base channels so that a non-Atmos decoder sees 7.1 and ignores the metadata.
Essentially, the 7.1 remains untouched, nothing is lost, but, technically, it is not decoded.

- Rich
Exactly, but there:s
Well, then everything I said still stands. My setup can either “pass” Atmos to my receiver or I can have it decode it in which case it passes to the X3700 as Multi Channel PCM. A quick google will confirm what I’m saying about KODI, assuming you have the latest version and are using hardware capable of the task.

Not sure why the other guy is arguing with me.
You continue to demonstrate your ignorance on the subject. Indeed when kodi decodes it as passed on to the receiver as max 7.1 lpcm, that means NO ATMOS, max 8 channels, which means no height channels, absolutely not, nothing, zilz, nada. Only 8 channels of lpcm audio to route to speakers.

Then you have passthrough, bitstream, no decoding in the mediaplayer, decoding in the licensed avr/processor or other licensed software/hardware where you may end up with potentially > 100 channels of audio to route to speakers. That is what decoding atmos (or dts x, etc.) is.

No quick Google will confirm you, you don't even need Google, a quick search on ASR will do. So nothing stands but your persistence in talking out of your ass (your own not so classy words).
 
Exactly, but there:s

You continue to demonstrate your ignorance on the subject. Indeed when kodi decodes it as passed on to the receiver as max 7.1 lpcm, that means NO ATMOS, max 8 channels, which means no height channels, absolutely not, nothing, zilz, nada. Only 8 channels of lpcm audio to route to speakers.

Then you have passthrough, bitstream, no decoding in the mediaplayer, decoding in the licensed avr/processor or other licensed software/hardware where you may end up with potentially > 100 channels of audio to route to speakers. That is what decoding atmos (or dts x, etc.) is.

No quick Google will confirm you, you don't even need Google, a quick search on ASR will do. So nothing stands but your persistence in talking out of your ass (your own not so classy words).
Lmao, go see a doc about your autism. I said three or four times in here that nobody cares about height channels and they wouldn’t be compatible with any theoretical configuration using an HTx since it has exactly 8 channels.

No amount of mental gymnastics will change the fact that KODI can take an Atmos stream and DECODE it then pass the 7.1ch lossless LPCM stream to the device of your choice.

You can hide behind semantics all you want, you’ve known what I meant the whole time.
 
Finally it's clear, you need to know what you're talking about: what you talk about is pass through where the avr is doing the decoding, not kodi. As i said before Kodi does not do lossless atmos decoding, not does any other mediaplayer (apart from paid for Dolby software).
i made mistake buying stormaudio isp32 its garbage trash should have headless panther , i'd sell it to you for £20k that's a bargain for garbage trash partly made of plastic and recycled coke cola tin cans from the looks of it
 
i think i won't buy mini flex sounds like audio junk that doesn't have 32 channels XLR with 20,200 peq filters per each output for £200 is most i think it be worth giving how greedy these audio manufactures have been over the many decades with all types of greedy priced eq that doesn't even cover the whole frequency spectrum of sine wave tone starting at 20,000 all way down to 1Hz , no just few hundred bands per ch for rubbish dirac or less with mini dsp , total waste of money and time
 
Lmao, go see a doc about your autism. I said three or four times in here that nobody cares about height channels and they wouldn’t be compatible with any theoretical configuration using an HTx since it has exactly 8 channels.

No amount of mental gymnastics will change the fact that KODI can take an Atmos stream and DECODE it then pass the 7.1ch lossless LPCM stream to the device of your choice.

You can hide behind semantics all you want, you’ve known what I meant the whole time.

i made mistake buying stormaudio isp32 its garbage trash should have headless panther , i'd sell it to you for £20k that's a bargain for garbage trash partly made of plastic and recycled coke cola tin cans from the looks of it
No thanks, I never would buy one, it is way over what I would spend on audio equipment. It is also just waiting for software solutions that can decode lossless "immersive" formats enabling routing the decoded channels to dacs. 16/24/32/.... channels of audio against a fraction of the price of a Storm or Trinnov
 
Lmao, go see a doc about your autism. I said three or four times in here that nobody cares about height channels and they wouldn’t be compatible with any theoretical configuration using an HTx since it has exactly 8 channels.

No amount of mental gymnastics will change the fact that KODI can take an Atmos stream and DECODE it then pass the 7.1ch lossless LPCM stream to the device of your choice.

You can hide behind semantics all you want, you’ve known what I meant the whole time.
Apart from being obnoxious, you're also braindead.

To help you not making a fool of yourselves again in the future i've added 2 links: Kodi Atmos decoding on kodi forum, read it from the kodi developers themselves that kodi cannot decode atmos (and decoded lpcm by kodi does not carry atmos metadata and passthrough is not decoding), and a 2nd one from this forum on the current limitations on atmos decoding on PC (you apparently run kodi on a, I assume windows, PC) ASR thread on atmos PC.

Do not react to my post, just read the links and learn, I'm doing you a favor.
 
Apart from being obnoxious, you're also braindead.

To help you not making a fool of yourselves again in the future i've added 2 links: Kodi Atmos decoding on kodi forum, read it from the kodi developers themselves that kodi cannot decode atmos (and decoded lpcm by kodi does not carry atmos metadata and passthrough is not decoding), and a 2nd one from this forum on the current limitations on atmos decoding on PC (you apparently run kodi on a, I assume windows, PC) ASR thread on atmos PC.

Do not react to my post, just read the links and learn, I'm doing you a favor.
I wonder what it must be like to be as on the spectrum as you are.

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Devs literally confirming what I’ve been saying over and over in this thread. You just can’t read, and sounds like don’t have a similar setup to be able to confirm what I’m saying.

Pass thru and decode are two different functions, do I need to make a video?
 
Just out of curiosity, since I’m still considering an HTx as HTP, and the only sources that I currently use for Home Theater are a windows 11 PC with KODI (does decode everything including Atmos/DTS:X) and a Xbox One X (which I can choose LPCM as output).

Would I just plug both of the sources into my LG MiniLED 86” and then connect the HTx to the eARC output of the TV?

Does anybody know if the Dirac Live setup for the HTx is still intuitive to use for setting up and calibrating a home theater setup like an AVR would be, or does it require additional steps to assign channels where you need them?
I compare above: ".....KODI (does decode everything including Atmos/DTS:X)....." with a link in which Kodi developers write that Kodi does not decode this. QED.

I'm done with this, I can waste my energy on better things.
 
This device looks really interesting. I was planning to combine a RPi4 with CamillaDSP, with a HDMI to I2S interface, https://www.aliexpress.com/item/330...order_list.order_list_main.141.2fde1802KyM2It (RPi4 can accept I2S natively), plus HDMI eARC to HDMI converter, https://www.aliexpress.com/item/100....order_list.order_list_main.26.2fde1802KyM2It , (allowing TV to be a hub for AppleTV, Blu-Ray player, etc.), and finally a good multi-channel DAC, like Topping DM7 or Motu Ultralite Mk5. The RPi4 would also be running LMS. But now, it looks this device can replace the whole, potentially unstable, electronics chain. However, can the MiniDSP switch inputs automatically? e.g. eARC vs SPDIF? I think that is a must for me, considering the price.
 
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This device looks really interesting. I was planning to combine a RPi4 with CamillaDSP, with a HDMI to I2S interface, https://www.aliexpress.com/item/330...order_list.order_list_main.141.2fde1802KyM2It (RPi4 can accept I2S natively), plus HDMI eARC to HDMI converter, https://www.aliexpress.com/item/100....order_list.order_list_main.26.2fde1802KyM2It , (allowing TV to be a hub for AppleTV, Blu-Ray player, etc.), and finally a good multi-channel DAC, like Topping DM7 or Motu Ultralite Mk5. The RPi4 would also be running LMS. But now, it looks this device can replace the whole, potentially unstable, electronics chain. However, can the MiniDSP switch inputs automatically? e.g. eARC vs SPDIF? I think that is a must for me, considering the price.
It doesn’t do auto input switching.
 
There's no issue with minidsp DAC/DSPs in general. This pops and clicks issue is only with the HT Flex, earc input when using an HD Fury eARC extractor. Supposedly this extractor works without clicks and pops but misses some other video features of the HD Fury.
Hello @rirelien, does your FeinTech VAX04101A have issues with pops and clicks, like this user has with HDFury options?
 
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