As long as you can measure the quantity - I'm in!
As long as you can measure the quantity - I'm in!
I was not expecting a pop quiz.So try doing three, for starters.
There actually are some problems with digital tech & studio recordings (mentioned e.g. by Steve Albini on one of his speeches), but none of these are connected with digital sounding worse.
What are they doing wrong?I was not expecting a pop quiz.
1. Sampling Rate
2.filters
3Aliasing
Did I pass professor?
@Judas, I'm warming to you and I rather like your name! I don't mean this in a condescending way, I mean it with genuine warmth.Did I pass professor?
To many and to complicated to list here. Sampling rate is a hot topic for one.
I'll cop to some of that. I've accepted some major-league disinformation in the recent past, and I'm sure plenty of people coming here for the first time have swallowed a lot of High-End BS much as I did.In any size group, there are going to be unpleasant people who enjoy trying to make others feel stupid. That's sad, and not what this place should be about, and isn't for the majority here. A small obnoxious minority can really take the laughs out of things sometimes.
It isn't a club, it is a source of information, and people coming here from whatever place on the learning curve they happen to be, should be treated in a way that is more likely to get them to stay than to leave.
It's almost like some are waiting around looking for people to tell they don't belong here. Those that don't will make it clear, but no need to shove them out the door before they've gotten their bearings in a place that's not like many others.
I got here looking for data to confirm that the 33 & 1/3, Long Play record album is a broken and unrepairable design/concept. I found plenty of data here....
Misunderstanding? misleading? I can only judge by the results. There can be no comparison between the lp and cd. Digital discard the analog wave and recreates it from a sample. Analog records the wave entirely. Each creating its own unique set of problems. Digital has improved mightily by addressing a whole set of problems. Despite what I have said in the pass I no longer believe it is inherently flawed medium. Of course you need the best recordings and playback equipment. As always the proof is in the pudding not the recipe.That's where I'll put my money typically... But, when people and their reality as they know it are treated dismissively, that just reflects poorly on the dismissers for the most part.
In any size group, there are going to be unpleasant people who enjoy trying to make others feel stupid. That's sad, and not what this place should be about, and isn't for the majority here. A small obnoxious minority can really take the laughs out of things sometimes.
It isn't a club, it is a source of information, and people coming here from whatever place on the learning curve they happen to be, should be treated in a way that is more likely to get them to stay than to leave.
It's almost like some are waiting around looking for people to tell they don't belong here. Those that don't will make it clear, but no need to shove them out the door before they've gotten their bearings in a place that's not like many others.
It is a hot topic... There is a lot of misunderstanding.
But, not too complicated, at least not here.
Do you feel that digital doesn't give you an accurate reconstruction (assuming competent filters per/Nyquist-Shannon) compared to an analog source?
I'll cop to some of that. I've accepted some major-league disinformation in the recent past, and I'm sure plenty of people coming here for the first time have swallowed a lot of High-End BS much as I did.
I probably shouldn't post loaded for bear. And I really do have too much free time on my hands.
All of these work well, so I believe it's not a passing grade. Care to elaborate what's wrong?I was not expecting a pop quiz.
1. Sampling Rate
2.filters
3Aliasing
Did I pass professor?
Out of curiosity, why? I noticed that some people have this aversion to create a new topics and I don't understand why.I hope it's fine to ask questions in this thread instead of creating a new one?
Because I assumed there might be an already existing thread that I haven't found, plus the fact that a short answer could be enough so a whole thread would be more pollutant than anything else.Out of curiosity, why? I noticed that some people have this aversion to create a new topics and I don't understand why.
Digital discard the analog wave and recreates it from a sample. Analog records the wave entirely.
Also worth noting, analog recording introduces wow & flutter & other types of speed variation, which deforms the signals captured by the microphone [which also distorts in its own sweet way]. Analog recording also has increasing distortion as levels go up. Digital recording has an absolute upper limit of dynamics. The two modes of recording will naturally sound different, but it's the digital recording that will successfully capture peak levels without distortion, assuming competent recording practices are observed. Bouncing from a digital recording to an analog tape recorder and back is a common practice in pop music as an 'effect'. And, as previously noted, LP playback introduces additional [and quite audible] distortions. The waveforms at the end of a digital chain have fewer distortions than the waveforms at the end of an analog chain.That's an extremely common misconception. This video gets referenced a lot on ASR, mainly because it does an exceptionally good job at descibing the basics of AD/DA conversion. It also shows why DA conversion doesn't recreate anything from nothing. It holds exactly the same amount of information about the analog wave as a non-digital storage medium would:
He's wrong. I have degree in math. This remedial for me.That's an extremely common misconception. This video gets referenced a lot on ASR, mainly because it does an exceptionally good job at descibing the basics of AD/DA conversion. It also shows why DA conversion doesn't recreate anything from nothing. It holds exactly the same amount of information about the analog wave as a non-digital storage medium would:
Do you have a degree in electronics & signal processing, though?He's wrong. I have degree in math. This remedial for me.
He's wrong. I have degree in math.