It depends a bit on the periphery, I would imagine.
Since they manufacture almost everything their-selves (even the drivers) they repair almost everything that is even older, like for example almost 40 year old passive loudspeakers that were sold from the predecessor company in the GDR https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Musikelectronic_Geithain
Yes, for monitoring in a well acoustically treated studio I would probably chose the Genelec as its anechoically more neutral, for music enjoyment in a normal room probably the Geithain as its more euphonic and has a cardioid bass which reduces room interaction problems.Here are the measurements from stereoplay for Genelec 8361A:
compare with the Geithain 921k:
Thank you, as an ex Neumann KH120 owner I guessed it correctly due to the too much bass (if you don't use room correction or the filters) and recessed presence region.
Geithain lacks DSP so that makes them kind of equal to Genelec in the context of room interaction problems I assume
Wouldn't say so, as its better to avoid acoustically problems then correcting them per EQ. Also you can add an external PEQ/DSP easily but not a cardioid bass behaviour
. (unless you use a couple of W371a which cost of course $$$$$)
My guess is that with the W371 bass unit and the way it works filling in nulls the Genelec will achieve a similar bass benefit as the Geithian by a different method.
I wonder about the relatively low powered amp for the 16" woofer. It's 180W "only". The 8" woofer of my old O300D is powered by 130W and the 10" woofer in the KH420 by 330W (@ 10% THD - wtf is that?). Surely a 16" woofer could handle even more power and might reach more than 98dB SPL. Maybe mid and tweeter are the limit.
It's very strange.
In reality it might cost a lot of money to get room that don't care about LF directivity and placement.
In studio producer would decide.
921K uses 12". 180W is a decent subwoofer from 2000th without extreme correction, like MK1250 ...
The 921 has a 12" bass unit, it is the 901 with a 16" and I had the same concern, mind you it also depends on the driver efficiency, and I don't know what that is.
The 921 has a 12" bass unit, it is the 901 with a 16" and I had the same concern, mind you it also depends on the driver efficiency, and I don't know what that is.
I keep vacillating between having a demo of Genelec 8351b with W371, the Geithain RL901K and telling myself not to be daft since what I have sounds fantastic already
It seems we are in the same boatThe 921 has a 12" bass unit, it is the 901 with a 16" and I had the same concern, mind you it also depends on the driver efficiency, and I don't know what that is.
I keep vacillating between having a demo of Genelec 8351b with W371, the Geithain RL901K and telling myself not to be daft since what I have sounds fantastic already
I like my NHT XD 2.2 - they sound fantastic. Yet, I feel like buying Genelec (W371+8351B/8361A) or Geithain 901k. Maybe I beat myself into submission by oscillating between the 2 and just keep status quo (NHT). I doubt I'm that wise.
My listening distance is at the top limit for the 901 so I had looked at 801 and 811 too but I think they are much more expensive and less well known, your comment on the 801 is therefore most welcome.
It is not as strange when you consider that the Genelec use their rear side bass drivers output to increase the spl (bass reflex, almost 6 dB extra) while the Geithain K models use it to decrease the spl on the back (cardioid, up to approximately 8dB less on the rear). For the same reason (that cardioid bass costs spl) the D&D 8c is not cardioid in the lower bass and the Kii Three cardioid bass extension is as big and expensive as it is. Like almost always in nature there is no thing as free lunch and quality and quantity are antagonistic properties.
I've got this Stereoplay article.
