Addicted to Fun and Learning
- Apr 30, 2023
- Northeastern region of USA
I did addressed that video, therefore I did not ignore it. Despite that video makes me sick to my stomach that such charlatanry exist.Well ignoring info that goes against our beliefs is one way to go about things. I prefer to trust but verify. No need to talk about the video anymore since nether of us can retest Danny in person.
You said trust but verified, then why would you reference to this video if you haven't verified it yet? Legit and honest question. The authenticity of the test in that video is not verifiable because none of us were there and that is by design. If Danny Ritchie wants a real Blind AB, I am sure Amir or anyone else on this forum can arrange it with neutral parties verifying the legitimacy of the test.
I'm not sure how long have you been in this HiFi hobby, but this ("what if we aren't measuring everything") has been going on for decades now.Do you have any thoughts on the rest of my post, more specifically, “What if we aren’t measuring everything? Could there be something involved with the whole complex system of amplification and signal delivery that we’re missing?”
1) First there has to be an scientifically observable difference before we can investigate what/how to measure something that we don't yet know about. Therefore first, provide me such evidence that such indeed difference exists. "Evidence, are you kidding me, half of the audiophile world are all saying they hear this x-factor." If that is your evidence that we should just go back to the stone ages now. No one has ever passed any blind AB test under verifiable legitimate environment. Have someone with the scientific and engineering knowledge, neutral party, with verifiable credentials host such a test and invite the general audiophile public to such blind AB event to prove such difference, then we can further investigate.
2) Dr. Toole has already done research and showed us what is that we "aren't measuring." He figured it out and published extensively about it. That is cognitive bias.
3) I go back, if we can't measure it, or have no clue on how to measure it, then how do you build it? How does an amp designer know that some people like "air," "warmth" and to add some, if s/he does not know much much air and warmth exist and how much to add?
The good old "golden ear" trick. I am sorry my friend, but you've been tricked by charlatans.Nope. I don’t hear a difference, but I believe there are others out there with better hearing than me that can hear a difference. I can’t call them liars just because I’m not as skilled, but I can ask questions to spur thought from others and point me to directions of research. It seems the more I learn, the less I really know…someone smarter than me said something similar back in the day.
If you passed a hearing test and you trained your ears (using an application like Harman's How to Listen, only available on Windows), then your hearing is as good as any ones. Charlatans have made claims that they have a better hearing then me. When I was much younger, I didn't know better, I kind of believe them. But now I laugh at such claims, because I have passed a hearing test and spend a considerable amount of time on the Harman How to Listen app (I must have logged about 20 plus hours on it over the years). And I am able (like Amir and many others on ASR) to differentiate the difference between CD and hi res (it's not what you think and you can search for this topic on this forum). EDIT: So any charlatan, of the likes of Danny Ritchie or Jay Lee, dares to claim that somehow they have a golden ear or my hearing is insufficient, I am more than happy to take any challenges they can throw at me. You too, don't let any charlatan tell you they have a golden ear and you don't. That is complete utter BS.