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Master AI (Artificial Intelligence) Discussion/News Thread

I was a very very avid daily library visitor from grade 1 onward when I discovered the library. By grade 2 I discovered the multitude of the complete series of fictional books written mostly for the young males of the time back then and I read every single one of the racks of those books and then I started on the individual books. In grades 2 & 3 the teacher(s) sat at her desk doing teacher stuff while I read books chosen by the teacher and some chosen by me to the class and I entertained them near everyday and they all voted for me to continue doing that over other personal choices they had because I made the books more involving, more emotional and relaxed them with my changing voice and reading ahead in my mind while reading to them and using that skill to change the mood and voicing as the book progressed and the story unfolded. By grade 8 I was into the classics and by grade 10 I found the humanities and used that to expand when I was not digesting the usual sort of fictional war, spy, collusion, diabolical and classical books that I digested in a time frame of about 2 hours to 5-7 hours each for the thick fictional books. I had ~90+ minutes per day sitting on a school bus to read and anybody that messed with me got messed up because firstly I was a very hard working farm kid that was stronger than most others and secondly I was previously messed up/bloodied by them, then studied judo for years, then used them daily to practice my art, got good at that, then taught them my tricks and stuff and nobody messed with me after that. I was a speed reading book digesting information consuming monster reader. I had speed read and looked at all the pictures in all the encyclopedia type books in the libraries multiple times each and exhausted them and had to move on. The entire school by high school knew I was the de facto reader of the school and the English teachers gave me major slack and for grades 11 and 12 I was told to sit at the back of the class, silently read the books of my choice and if something came up they would alert me and get me involved with the class. Some students got it and others questioned it but when these same students where questioned about specific books by the teacher(s) and they had no answers at all and the teacher(s) then made it a point of asking me to stop reading my unrelated book and to answer a question or two about the book the class was reading at that time and I did answer properly they knew why I was doing my own personal thing everyday at the back of the English class(s). In grade 11 I was quietly pulled aside during a English class out to the hallway and invited to attend a exclusive English study class of ~10 students made up of the most advanced readers in the high school where we where tested for reading level comprehension, memory and speed and I was rated as a 2nd year+ university level reader. So... We studied high level comprehension skills, speed reading techniques and skills strengthening tools and listened to the English teacher calmly detailing for us why, how, what, where and all the other jazz about our advanced reading abilities to get us stoked up to be better and then we tested again to prove our speeds, memory and comprehension had improved and we became even better readers. After high school I read more fiction stuff for awhile but I went to technical literature and never looked at much else from then on. If not for my natural gift of advanced reading skills I would be sunk in more ways than one. The reading abilities that I have saved my ass, made my life way easier and gave me the ability to self learn with speed, efficiency and effectiveness. Without my reading abilities I would have never been able to overcome many of the major obstacles that where in my life along the way that where fully not within my control. People that depend on AI are not doing themselves any favors and are perpetuating their reading skill inefficiencies. There is only one way to exercise the brain's reading skills and that is to train the brain by reading. It is like a muscle that needs to be stressed, stretched, torn and then healed to make it more capable. The brain needs hypertrophy like exercises and healing to develop and there is no alternative method or manner in which this skill can be improved other than reading more and reading more challenging literature.
my brain needs all sorts of stimuli and challenges from different directions. I am a very functional bipolar person. left to myself without external challenges I grow self destructive.

a world (which some AI advocates propose) where there is an AI and automation tax and people get payoffs from that doing little would kill me.
 
my brain needs all sorts of stimuli and challenges from different directions. I am a very functional bipolar person. left to myself without external challenges I grow self destructive.

a world (which some AI advocates propose) where there is an AI and automation tax and people get payoffs from that doing little would kill me.
I don't even think about or question the information digesting requirements of my brain anymore. The intake and consumption requirements of information is simply a full time everyday all day technique used by me to get through life in the most healthy way that I am capable of. It's just what I do now and I don't even consider anything else or any other stuff/methods to get my days done. I too have ongoing mental health issues/struggles derived from abuse that are very PTSD related sort of stuff and some off shoots of schizophrenia like voices/narratives with critically insulting damaging voices/memories that make me relive everything that I hear daily hours later in multiple ways/emotions that become long term memories recalled days, weeks and even months later as if they actually occurred and I must analyze them daily to ensure that I don't ingest them as long term memory recalls later. All that came from long term daily physical abuse, severe mental abuse and mind control, the total death of my confidence, the absolute pushing down of my emotions and sense of personal self and the resulting very poor comprehension/ reasoning skills needed to realize others actual mental abilities and mental age and not their physical age. I was a extremely poor judge of age and mental competency for many years. I am at age ~60 now and just beginning to understand and know that I am mentally significantly older than my physical age. These major issues where caused by my totally terrible abuser parents that I fully escaped from at age ~14. The mental health issues intermittently persist daily/weekly to this day and I have a ruptured internal organ to this day from that abuse too as a memento of those times. So... I appreciate the challenges of any mental health matter and I understand the need for strong coping skills/methods to get by in times of struggle with mental health matters.
 
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I don't even think about or question the information digesting requirements of my brain anymore. The intake and consumption requirements of information is simply a full time everyday all day technique used by me to get through life in the most healthy way that I am capable of. It's just what I do now and I don't even consider anything else or any other stuff/methods to get my days done. I too have ongoing mental health issues/struggles derived from abuse that are very PSD related sort of stuff and some off shoots of schizophrenia like voices/narratives with critically insulting damaging voices/memories that make me relive everything that I hear daily hours later in multiple ways/emotions that become long term memories recalled days, weeks and even months later as if they actually occurred and I must analyze them daily to ensure that I don't ingest them as long term memory recalls later. All that came from long term daily physical abuse, severe mental abuse and mind control, the total death of my confidence, the absolute pushing down of my emotions and sense of personal self and the resulting very poor comprehension/ reasoning skills needed to realize others actual mental abilities and mental age and not their physical age. I was a extremely poor judge of age and mental competency for many years. I am at age ~60 now and just beginning to understand and know that I am mentally significantly older than my physical age. These major issues where caused by my totally terrible abuser parents that I fully escaped from at age ~14. The mental health issues intermittently persist daily/weekly to this day and I have a ruptured internal organ to this day from that abuse too as a memento of those times. So... I appreciate the challenges of any mental health matter and I understand the need for strong coping skills/methods to get by in times of struggle with mental health matters.
At work I am a person many people seek out. My title these days is "Master". Not saying I know why any US based company would use that term...
I did chose to downgrade myself from exec titles to individual contributor about 10 years ago. I was unhappy and that was harming me.
I am better at handling abstract tech problems. than dealing with other people's drama... the latter drags me eventually down into near depression levels.
But as I am a reviewer for quite a few things these days, AI brings a new. element of drama into the workplace when you tell people "this isn't you, be yourself".
the starting blank page when you create new stuff can be scary, but the outcome is only exhilarating If it is truly OURS.
 
At work I am a person many people seek out. My title these days is "Master". Not saying I know why any US based company would use that term...
I did chose to downgrade myself from exec titles to individual contributor about 10 years ago. I was unhappy and that was harming me.
I am better at handling abstract tech problems. than dealing with other people's drama... the latter drags me eventually down into near depression levels.
But as I am a reviewer for quite a few things these days, AI brings a new. element of drama into the workplace when you tell people "this isn't you, be yourself".
the starting blank page when you create new stuff can be scary, but the outcome is only exhilarating If it is truly OURS.
I had some help along the way in life from people that saw reasons to make effort to assist me and took me under their wing and some even went out on a limb risking taking to get into my brain and undo my paradigms, damaging thoughts and methods. I am a white/pink 10th generation Canadian of Scottish ancestry with a very polite English method upbringing. One such person that took major risks to get into my brain to help me was a small old black man from Trinidad and Tobago that was also a electronic technician before he retired that decided I needed regular visits at his home for wine, beers, talk, discussion, old catchy jazz and older funky British music and intention forming yelling at me angrily with major amounts of emphasis directed at me to stop the, "What about isms', stop the "scare crow discussion tactics" and stop the lack of confidence confusion about common sense ideas that I made complicated and over analyzed etc. He was making very strong effort to get into my mind and get me to use common sense simple factual critical thinking and stop the madness that was holding me down and back. So I felt and saw that he meant well, I stuck with it, I endured the frustration and pain of the learning, put into long term memory all he said and I pull it all out whenever I need it to this day and use all of it because he was 100% totally right about every single thing he said to me. Sometimes I really wanted to just tell him to just eFF oFF and walk out but I didn't and sometimes I really think he thought I was possibly going to do that or maybe even worse but he persisted and made sure to effect real change. So... I don't sweat people that are idiots, fools and worse very much now. I just recognize them for what they are, admit it to myself, don't make excuses, acknowledge they most likely will never improve and maybe can't and often they are not capable of more and so I move on and don't feel aggravated or aggressive and realize that I must care for myself sometimes before others otherwise I will be totally useless to all others and not just a few and I forgive before forgiveness and carry on with my day knowing that if I have to I can and will and that I am a capable person. It makes life so much better to be honest with myself, respect my personal time, thoughts, energy, effort and not need to care too too much about the stuff people do that annoys, irritates and makes little to zero sense to any person with any proper level of critical thinking ability. I was going nutterZ after ~9 years of home audio gear sales with the multiple tens of thousands of people recorded by the security system every week coming in and the amount of absolute fools of both female and male genders that I had to talk with and I erased all that with many beers and cocktails after work. Escaping the massive quantity of people and getting into mechatronics saved me from certain mental anguish. But with that newfound quantum physics knowledge and method came new challenges and issues in that I saw the entire universe differently and I needed to think all day everyday about all the ideas that popped into my mind and I became socially inept. All I wanted was more electronics stuff daily and so I worked 72 to 74 hours per week for years and I became very good at what I was doing in a very short period of time. The exact opposite of before when my interpersonal skills where at the top of the heap and made me very successful at sales. So I went from this to that, grew my hair to the middle of my back, then cut it all off on a hot intense sweaty summer day to mm length and I learned that some people simply don't like short hair people and they liked me before that...LoL. I learned that some people are very fickle and attempting to make sense of all that jazz is a stupid effort and not a proper endeavor.
 
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At work I am a person many people seek out. My title these days is "Master". Not saying I know why any US based company would use that term...
I did chose to downgrade myself from exec titles to individual contributor about 10 years ago. I was unhappy and that was harming me.
I am better at handling abstract tech problems. than dealing with other people's drama... the latter drags me eventually down into near depression levels.
But as I am a reviewer for quite a few things these days, AI brings a new. element of drama into the workplace when you tell people "this isn't you, be yourself".
the starting blank page when you create new stuff can be scary, but the outcome is only exhilarating If it is truly OURS.

But I should say...

I have learned that some people are proud of cheating the system...

.. while others only take pride in mastering stuff they did on their very own.

AI can cater to both... but those options have always existed and are nothing new under the sun.

I think it's misplaced to single out AI as creative cheating when the option has clearly always existed, starting with little notes written to paying someone to take a certification test for you.
 
But I should say...

I have learned that some people are proud of cheating the system...

.. while others only take pride in mastering stuff they did on their very own.

AI can cater to both... but those options have always existed and are nothing new under the sun.

I think it's misplaced to single out AI as creative cheating when the option has clearly always existed, starting with little notes written to paying someone to take a certification test for you.
I find contributing to the news commentary daily to be very self learning, makes me really see all the various personalities and the weird/absurd/idiotic/foolish/aggressive/abusers/manipulators and generally just simple interfering sorts that get their jollies there all day everyday by arguing everything, micro-managing commentary to get attention and insisting on being relevant on all topics like they are authoritative figures and many of these people intentionally cheat facts and manipulate to get jollies and pleasure. It's that simple. They mostly have no real expertise, they make up fictions and present them as facts and spin the spin. AI might actually work against this sort of people.
 
I've been playing with Google's NotebookLM recently. I've also re-plumbed my living room AV setup and have been struggling with finding all the right settings for stuff.

Today, I wanted to ensure that my subwoofer was being used in addition to my mains for stereo content...

1. Create a new notebook.
2. Hit 'Discover' and type 'Denon AVR-X1700H setup and optimization' in the Sources pane. Accept the 10 suggested sources (lots of links to official Denon information, but also some third party setup guides and a video).
3. Type 'How do I use both the main speakers and subwoofer for stereo sources' in the chat.
4. Skim the answer and see that subwoofer mode = "LFE+Main" is the crucial setting.
5. Fire up the Denon's web interface on my tablet and set subwoofer mode to "LFE+Main".
6. Sit back and enjoy the music (from Spotify Lossless) and wonder at how quick and easy that was.

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The mind map view is pretty cool as well...

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All I know is that AI is creating a financial bubble that at some point will be causing a crash just like the internet and banking crisis before that.
Money always seeks a 'hype' and always ends in money seemingly evaporating for late investors (the public) and is culled by financial giants that control the market.

Another thing is that it becomes increasingly difficult to tell AI nonsense and fakes apart from reality.
Add to that the blind faith many folks today seem to have in 'opinions' from AI summaries and 'facts'.
This is bound to become problematic rather sooner than later if it isn't already.

Sure it can give progress and add value when used sensibly but since when are people sensible and is money not an important incentive to do wrong ?
 
I was trying to program one of my collection traffic signal controllers and couldn’t find a feature I knew was there. I was searching and letting Google’s AI look through the marginally related long documents, so I would not have to search those (200-300-page) documents myself on my phone. Every response had a mix of fact and error. One response stated confidently that the product line I was asking about was now owned by a company that absolutely does not own that product. (I know with certainty who owns what in that industry.) Another response conflated two different products that happened to comply with the same standard. I did get what I needed, and was glad of that, but I had to already know what I needed and let the AI only do the finding. But the ratio of false to true was greater than half, though all of it was presented as authoritative fact.

It’s an old truism that journalists get everything right except about topics within our own expertise. General AI tools that use broad public data won’t be any better.

The US government is reportedly moving from a Microsoft platform to a Google platform, and Gemini is a big reason. It’s going to be interesting.

Rick “good grammar is not authoritative” Denney
 
Every response had a mix of fact and error.
A first year professor, during the first day of class, told us that he will repeat all of the significant EE information in lectures for "5 Tau, so that they'll sink in your brains with a chance of 98.2%."
He repeated the "5τ" part 5 times. Of course, no one in the lecture knew what he was talking about.

To solidify his point, in our AI-era, 5τ principle still has much merit; simply by checking an AI's answer 4τ more.:)
 
"Engineering Education in the Age of AI"
Some snippets (from an EET opinion piece, by Ross Satchell, on 2025/11/20):
"...Looking back, I realize that this shift toward AI has forced me to rediscover why I fell in love with engineering in the first place. It is not about writing code faster or designing circuits more efficiently. It is about understanding how things work and how they fail...
…This episode was a stark reminder of something every engineer learns early: reliability requires reasoning. When we stop understanding the systems we build, we give away the very skill that makes us engineers…
...There is also a broader professional truth here. In the workplace, I see two kinds of engineers emerging: those who drive AI and those who are passengers to it…
...As educators and professionals, we owe it to the next generation to teach them how to think clearly, question confidently and verify relentlessly."
Link
 
Talk about drinking your own Kool-Aid:


Oh dear. Apart from doubting it's real, and being wrong, it's hard to comment further on this. And they still give him money by the McDuck-load?

Ironic that he schemed so hard to overturn their non-profit foundation, and proceeds to make no profit to this day and beyond. Skimming the cream is enough it seems.
 
Ironic that he schemed so hard to overturn their non-profit foundation, and proceeds to make no profit to this day and beyond.
It is a fundamental issue with the technology. They are trying to replace Google Search with AI answers that take a million times more resources. Hard to imagine how you ever turn that into a money maker. The thing I have heard is AI acting as your shopping agent and making money out of commission.
 
It is a fundamental issue with the technology. They are trying to replace Google Search with AI answers that take a million times more resources. Hard to imagine how you ever turn that into a money maker. The thing I have heard is AI acting as your shopping agent and making money out of commission.
The Brave AI search has been so much better than google for me. I search for information from lost product manuals and get it in a concise essay. Backed up, usually, with links to the manuals.
 
The Brave AI search has been so much better than google for me. I search for information from lost product manuals and get it in a concise essay. Backed up, usually, with links to the manuals.
No doubt. I use Gemini because it is so convenient as party of my search. Every day I am amazed at the answers I get. Then again I often click on the reference link and get an obscure video or some random dude backing that conclusion from Gemini. Yet Gemini offered it as if Einstein had said something about space time! :)
 
Will it be possible in the future when robotics and AI merge...the world will get robot workers that become farmers, contruction workers, tailors, provide clean water, become chef, delivering stuff etc so that humans don't even have to work? ie the AI robots work to serve humans. We basically live at home and listen to music :p
Elon Musk AI and robotic prediction
 
I often click on the reference link and get an obscure video or some random dude backing that conclusion from Gemini. Yet Gemini offered it as if Einstein had said something about space time!
Out of curiosity I asked Gemini why this happens, because I too had exactly the same feeling. Its full reply is linked below, but essentially it says that these are two unconnected processes: high quality generative answer and post-hoc video search in YouTube by keywords. So it is not generating answer based on what it’s quoting :-) In the end it says: “The text is a synthesis of humanity's best written knowledge. The video is just a link to whatever currently ranks highest on YouTube for those keywords. Until the AI can visually assess "authority" and "production value" effectively, this gap in quality will remain”.

 
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