Master AI (Artificial Intelligence) Discussion/News Thread

[Timcognito]

The startup I worked for 1986-92 was purchased by the worlds largest pharmaceutical company and back then they had one of largest Cray SuperComputers running drug formulation simulations nearly 24/7. It is hard to believe that such operations are not using AI for the same as they have gigantic internal and external databases with universities, subsidiaries, investments in new ventures, clinical trials and sponsored research. If they used it then they are using it now.

 

[WillBrink]

Best selling author David Baldacci Rips Big Tech Over AI Copyright During a Senate Judiciary Hearing:

 

[CtheArgie]

Adding a bit of music to this topic, I found this video also terrifying. Look how easy it is to make a “believable” song!

 

[PristineSound]

Have you verified that those are actual examples, and not AI hallucinations?

There are associated sources with all ChatGPT answers, and yes, I do spot check them.

 

[Axo1989]

There are associated sources with all ChatGPT answers, and yes, I do spot check them.

The list of things people have thrown these squawking stochastic parrots at would be anything/everything by now, surely?

 

[Axo1989]

And here we go!

"An AI-generated band got 1m plays on Spotify. Now music insiders say listeners should be warned​

The Velvet Sundown released two albums before admitting their music, images and backstory were created by AI"

An AI-generated band got 1m plays on Spotify. Now music insiders say listeners should be warned

The Velvet Sundown released two albums before admitting their music, images and backstory were created by AI

www.theguardian.com

And the music is better than much of what's popular these days:

Convenient to do a quick listen here without polluting my Music algorithm.

So ‘march for peace, not for pride’ is an interesting line to chorus, but the generator has no clue what it’s saying, of course. It’s as bland as advertised. And no visualiser?

 

[PristineSound]

The list of things people have thrown these squawking stochastic parrots at would be anything/everything by now, surely?

Huh? I don't understand.

 

[Somafunk]

This discussion should be an interesting/worrying watch, out on the 22nd

 

[pablolie]

For me to perform my "recreation" 3 times a week, both ways would probably be during their high-price time zone:

"Based on typical UberX pricing in the Tampa area (derived from web sources like Uber’s estimator and TaxiFareFinder), a 43-mile trip would likely cost $50-$75 under normal conditions, with a travel time of about 50-60 minutes. However, 8 AM is peak rush hour, and surge pricing could increase the fare to $75-$100 or more. Higher-tier options like Uber Comfort or XL might range from $80-$120."

Yeah, $400-$600 a week or thereabouts?

$21,000 to $31,000/year?

I don't think that's a good fit for me.

I am in no way disputing that - but calculate the entire cost of ownership of a self-driving EV (ain't easy) ... Zero driving enjoyment plus zero control nets about zero for me personally as far as car ownership desire goes. ymmv and all that.

 

[Frank Dernie]

I am a nervous passenger and my heart rate goes up even using cruise control so autonomous driving is a nightmare to which I won't subject myself.

 

[antcollinet]

I am a nervous passenger and my heart rate goes up even using cruise control so autonomous driving is a nightmare to which I won't subject myself.

And yet the roads will be massively safer - once manual driving on them is eventually - as is inevitable - outlawed.

 

[Chr1]

Being a motorcycle rider, I can't say that I am too enamoured by the prospect. Several cases of bikes being hit.
From what I can make out, it ain't quite "fit for purpose" yet.

 

[Frank Dernie]

And yet the roads will be massively safer - once manual driving on them is eventually - as is inevitable - outlawed.

So I keep being told.

 

[Frank Dernie]

Being a motorcycle rider, I can't say that I am too enamoured by the prospect. Several cases of bikes being hit.
From what I can make it ain't quite "fit for purpose" yet.

The initial development of autonomous driving and solving certain aspects of the control went on quickly initially but I think the final evolution of something fine for all road conditions has a lot of fine details to control properly before it is "fit for purpose" in general road conditions. It still seems a very long way off to me, and may never be safe in all conditions, though well defined areas for autonomous taxis are perhaps OK already.
Driving down a country road at night round here I can't see it without mandated road markings being added at huge expense. The edge of the road is hard to distinguish from the grass verge and very little margin of error on such narrow roads. Lots of GPS blindspots due to trees and so forth.

 

[Chr1]

Indeed. Presumably/hopefully there will be sufficient safety testing in all conditions and environments before it's unleashed on the public. Like a lot of my concerns re AI, as long as public safety comes before private profits, I will be a happy camper.

 

[Frank Dernie]

Indeed. Presumably/hopefully there will be sufficient safety testing in all conditions and environments before it's unleashed on the public. Like a lot of my concerns re AI, as long as safety comes before profits, I will be a happy camper.

Tesla have unleashed it with warnings about the driver keeping alert and being prepared to take back control at any time - which would leave me a gibbering wreck waiting for something to go wrong and worrying if my over-ride would be fast enough.
There have been unexplained accidents and much obfuscation.

 

[Axo1989]

Best selling author David Baldacci Rips Big Tech Over AI Copyright During a Senate Judiciary Hearing:

Good god, I'm liking a @WillBrink post, the world is truly up-side-down! But I do agree with this author. My contempt for these acts of theft to enrich billionaires and venture capitalists knows no bounds.

 

[manisandher]

I am a nervous passenger and my heart rate goes up even using cruise control so autonomous driving is a nightmare to which I won't subject myself.

My daily is a Tesla (base Model 3), which I actually really, really like.

Was driving up the M6 a few months ago. Came across some roadworks (of course!), with two lanes closed on the opposite side, concrete barriers in the middle section. I set the cruise control to 50mph. There was a construction truck in the closed section on other side, manoeuvring into position, perpendicular to the concrete barrier. The Tesla couldn't 'see' the concrete barrier in the middle and 'thought' the truck was going to drive straight into our lane. It braked suddenly and very hard. Fortunately, the car behind me was a few car lengths away. I immediately hit the accelerator.

I haven't used its cruise control again since.

 

[rdenney]

For me to perform my "recreation" 3 times a week, both ways would probably be during their high-price time zone:

"Based on typical UberX pricing in the Tampa area (derived from web sources like Uber’s estimator and TaxiFareFinder), a 43-mile trip would likely cost $50-$75 under normal conditions, with a travel time of about 50-60 minutes. However, 8 AM is peak rush hour, and surge pricing could increase the fare to $75-$100 or more. Higher-tier options like Uber Comfort or XL might range from $80-$120."

Yeah, $400-$600 a week or thereabouts?

$21,000 to $31,000/year?

I don't think that's a good fit for me.

A lot of policy in the US has been driven by people who see taxi/uber use as a normal part of daily life, and prefer to live where car ownership is optional at best. Many of them look on residential and workplace accommodations that require personal car use (in some cases even the implied freedom of movement) with disdain.

Of course, that is a long way from a universal point of view even in policy circles, not to mention across the public at large. But the effect of that point of view has been undeniable.

I am carefully avoiding political attributions and judgements for several reasons, including some even more important to me than the rules of ASR. But I am not speculating this time.

Rick “noting the predilection of people to tell other people how to live—a predilection control systems powered by AI will inherit if we aren’t careful” Denney

 

[rdenney]

So I keep being told.

The US has about 35,000 traffic deaths a year (I haven’t checked numbers in a little while and this is a broad approximation). Would policymakers require automated driving if it reduced that to, say, 25,000 deaths a year?

Just observing it from the outside, my bet is “yes”—at least that would be their desire, especially if they (the policy folks) live where car use is optional.

And then there are the insurance companies.

One difference, though, is that the imposition of these consequences would be far less under the control of the victims and people often hate arbitrary risk versus risks that they think they can mitigate through their own choices (and the arbitrariness of traffic mishap is already significant). That’s why people (for example) overvalue the (tiny) risks of commercial air travel in the travel decisions they make. So, I doubt such policy would be popular in many sectors.

Rick “just an observer” Denney